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Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

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I feel like there is some astroturfing going on with this post...

If you have specific concerns you are welcome to email them to hn@ycombinator.com, so we can look into it. But please don't break the site guidelines, which ask you not to post insinuations of astroturfing like this. (Such insinuations poison internet forums and most often turn out to be groundless. I've posted a ton about this if anyone wants to read more: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...).

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

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I totally agree with A16Z here. Blockchain skepticism is not hard to find on HN and beyond. First, the ecosystem is vast and evolving quickly. If you've "tuned out" by dismissing blockchain, then don't be surprised when your industry gets disrupted in 5-10 years. I think we'll begin to see business logic open-sourced on the blockchain. For example, existing SaaS model incentivizes closed-source, centrally managed rep…

> For example, a CRM-focused blockchain might place the business logic for managing customer relations and sales on-chain and enable competing clients to build on the protocol.

We can already do this with traditional APIs. The only benefit of blockchain code, or smart contracts, is trust. It assures users that the code they think is running is in fact running.

For most existing apps, including CRM, users can trust their provider because incentives are aligned.

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

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I totally agree with A16Z here. Blockchain skepticism is not hard to find on HN and beyond. First, the ecosystem is vast and evolving quickly. If you've "tuned out" by dismissing blockchain, then don't be surprised when your industry gets disrupted in 5-10 years. I think we'll begin to see business logic open-sourced on the blockchain. For example, existing SaaS model incentivizes closed-source, centrally managed rep…

> I think we'll begin to see business logic open-sourced on the blockchain.

Business logic is open-sourced now. Why would this matter?

> For example, existing SaaS model incentivizes closed-source, centrally managed repositories.

How? Nobody would care if a SaaS used a blockchain, assuming that ever makes sense. For users, it's invisible plumbing.

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

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Or crypto is just another hype that will burst like the dot com bubble. However, I have to say, compared with the companies of the dot com bubble the blockchain space has very little to offer. The other day I saw an ad for an IoT ML ICO.

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

#26

I hope for all of our sakes that it's more profitable for a16z to invest in real blockchain startups and leverage their experience to uncover exciting, legitimate applications of the technology than it is to just day-trade cypto assets.

I'm sure it's tempting to use the discount to sell off the principal after the startup starts trading on exchanges post public ICO.

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

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> This trust emerges from the mathematical and game-theoretic properties of the system, without depending on the trustworthiness of individual network participants.

I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of game theory as the base of trust. Mathematics as used in cryptography is a pretty solid base, but game theory feels like something entirely different.

How do I know that there isn't a participant in the game that is willing to just smash the board? The existing blockchains like Bitcoin do have a certain amount of centralization, so this is not about a very large number of individuals where you could find some comfort in statistics. What if a state actor decides to smash the board, they could probably exert enough pressure on the large players?

What if there are more subtle ways to extract short term gains that game theory didn't anticipate?

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

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The skepticism of blockchain technology is borne out of a lack of specific problems it solves. Which happens to also be the bedrock of the conventional startup wisdom -- value derived from solving a problem or exploiting an opportunity.

So much of the blockchain hype is focused purely on the technology and the valuation of the tokens / coins. Not the problem it solves.

It's distributed trust. That's the problem it solves. It's incredibly cool technology. That solves a specific problem.

The analogy to the early internet is not a good one. The internet solved a huge number of problems -- of distribution, of speed to deliver value to the customer, of freedom of information, of transparency, of fidelity of communication, and more. That's why it's changed society.

I would love to know which societal problems can be reduced to a distributed trust problem. That would convince me that I'm wrong about blockchain technology.

Re: Introducing A16Z Crypto

#30

I totally agree with A16Z here. Blockchain skepticism is not hard to find on HN and beyond. First, the ecosystem is vast and evolving quickly. If you've "tuned out" by dismissing blockchain, then don't be surprised when your industry gets disrupted in 5-10 years. I think we'll begin to see business logic open-sourced on the blockchain. For example, existing SaaS model incentivizes closed-source, centrally managed rep…

Have you heard of GDPR? Customer data must be deletable and only shared with third parties based on user consent.

A blockchain is an immutable data structure that unknown third parties can copy. It's literally the exact opposite of what you should be using for customer data. How does this CRM-focused blockchain make any sense at all?

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