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IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by j45 »

beefhash wrote: post #17

As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

Slack is today's version of a modern accessible IRC client.

It doesn't preclude from the issues of slack being solved by another group.

edit: For the IRC uninitiated who enjoy drive-by downvoting: Slack is IRC-inspired - the concept of channels, usernames, private messaging and bots.... in slack is almost all directly inherited from IRC.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by wencha »

mepian wrote: post #22

I don't expect anything good to come out of this for the current IRC users. Hopefully they aren't going to play the embrace-extend-extinguish game in the long run to steal the name for their own proprietary protocol.

Remove “proprietary” and that’s what IRCv3 did.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by prawnsalad »

beefhash wrote: post #17

As a routine user of IRC: This scares – nay, terrifies – me. London Trust Media is colossal. They seem to have control over freenode and Snoonet, two networks basically unchallenged in their niche. Snoonet hasn't been doing so well since Discord, but that's another story. They also seem to own Private Internet Access. If a player becomes too big, they'll change the rules of the game. Just look at the state of Interne…

I'm part of LTM and starting to build up irc.com, along with founding kiwiirc.com.

I can say that London Trust Media does not impact freenode in any way - they purely fund it to keep it running so that they can focus on other areas.

As for the issues with IRC - I agree. Major improvements has happened already but it has a long way to go and that's why were putting money into it to boost these efforts. We have open source projects and fund open source projects, each one focussing on what the project communities and developers believe in.

What really is needed IMO is a place that can work on these things full time, prove that IRC can in fact work at scale and solve these problems, then others may hopefully follow. We fully intend on growing the IRC community as a whole - not just ourselves.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by LocalH »

aarpmcgee wrote: post #14
rasengan wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My apologies. What I'm trying to say with that overly-loaded statement is that IRC values people for who they are and doesn't judge a book by its cover.

IRC is a protocol.

Then replace "IRC" with "IRC culture"

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by j45 »

I don't know about trascended... But it definitely has gone backwards since.

But irc in its heyday had far higher quality and duration of connection than much that followed it. Maybe it was truly the first generation of the internet. I still have many of those teenage irc connections in my life years later.

It's not hard to imagine IRC surviving if it had a natural path to instant messaging when Icq/aim/yahoo arrived.

I welcome a return of a modern IRC.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by pmoriarty »

ve55 wrote: post #10

I'm interested to see how they manage to convince communities to use their IRC services over competitors like Discord when so many users see Discord as easy, free, trendy, etc. Of course services liks Slack, Telegram, Skype, etc, are also potential competitors in this ecosystem. >IRC Gaming (We're going to have literally hundreds of thousands in cash prizes!) I suppose literally paying users money is one way, but it…

Are there any open source Discord clients?

So far, I've refused to try it because the only client Gentoo has is a binary blob.

Re: IRC.com Bought by London Trust Media, Pledges an IRC Revival

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Post by pmoriarty »

ulkesh wrote: post #19

I love the optimism. Really. However, while IRC is a great collaboration tool, and one I also grew up using, I find that though users are anonymous and no one can see each other, there are still plenty of trolls who have many ways of getting under one's skin. This utopia of IRC simply doesn't exist. It is still comprised of humans. Anonymous humans. And anonymity tends to bring out the worst in people.

My experience with the FreeNode IRC network has been pretty troll-free.

They could do even better by requiring everyone to register.

In my experience, trolling on IRC is mostly a thing of the past.

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