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GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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For the sake of completeness and putting moral questions aside, what is currently the best way to publish similarly questionable information in a hard-to-censor way?

If you won't let me speak, delete my fucking comment.

Your characterisation of the left and the right undermines your argument entirely. There are most certainly virtuous and unethical people on both sides of the spectrum.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

#22

For the sake of completeness and putting moral questions aside, what is currently the best way to publish similarly questionable information in a hard-to-censor way?

BitTorrent with DHT, upload to lots of places.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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post #10

And now the Verge article has been scrubbed of the link to the Gitlab copy of the "ice-linkedin" repository. The real casualty here is going to be Linkedin. They don't publicize much how easily their data can be acquired in bulk.

You mean legally?

No, that this will probably cost Linkedin their users who work for government or government contractors.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There can sometimes be a fine line between "enabling" and "meddling" I mean, surely you can't expect a site like GitHub with thousands of projects happening every day to be able to keep track of each one and make sure that something bad isnt being done with the project.

What? Yes you surely can expect that. That's what moderation is. That's what every site on the internet that allows user-submitted content does. Thats what Twitter does, YouTube does, Facebook does, Reddit does, and HN does. That's what GitHub does. GitHub is ultimately responsible for everything that is hosted on their site, and so of course they track each one and monitor them for violations of their policies. If t…

Your examples are explicitly social sites (networking or forums) where moderation is done by the general public seeing and responding to content.

GitHub has a slightly different dynamic, being work focused, and there being no reason for most people to delve into random repositories and flag inappropriate ones.

Heck, even the underlying tech assumes problems fixed with patches rather than repository deletion, so if anthing it’s half way between Wikipedia and Geocities.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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I don't get it... the author has a web site of his own. If he wants to distribute information, why not put it there instead of relying on third parties? (not offering any opinion on whether or not the data should be distributed, just questioning the means).

Throwing it in a git repository ensures that every person who clones it can readily republish it. Hosting said repository on Github, when anticipating an utterly massive spike in traffic, is an easy way to not have to pay for said spike in traffic (either from provisioning or data transfer).

I didn't look at what format the "database" is in, or if the size would make it (im)practical to simply zip it up and email it around, but if the format isn't readily consumable by non-technical people, there wouldn't be any reason to not utilize a tool like git anyway.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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So if I get this correct; this person wrote a program to gather information about individuals that may or may not be responsible for things related to the government agency and published that list with the intent that people who are angry about that should do what exactly? Contact them? Threat them? Stalk them? I see no other possible outcome of this action.

Either you:

1. Don't care

2. Use this information in a bad way, like harassing or stalking the individuals that are doing their job (I'm assuming).

I don't understand people who do this kind of things and also expect support and sympathy. You have none from me at least. It is great that Medium and Github removes such databases to protect individuals that probably are innocent.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean legally?

No, that this will probably cost Linkedin their users who work for government or government contractors.

A user violated the TOS and wrote a screen scraper that pulled down public profile data. Yeah, real "easy". You cannot protect from this sort of behavior outside of completely disabling this functionality altogether. Anything a human has access to, so does software.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

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So the author copied data from one Microsoft site (LinkedIn) to another Microsoft site (GitHub).

Both sites use PII to target people and companies: how many annoying emails have you received from LinkedIn this week? And I mean the creepy ones, suggesting contacts based on minute details from your profile, or encouraging you to import all your contacts so they can be spammed?

But I guess if a user does it, it’s doxxing. I wonder if this is political, or maybe Medium and GitHub are just trying to avoid a potential fight with a federal agency.

Re: GitHub and Medium take down database of ICE employee LinkedIn accounts

#29

Q "But don't we sell the same kind of data to our paying customers?" X "Yes, but when we do it, it's not doxxing" Q "Why not?" X "Because we would never do it for any nefarious reason" Q "What about that time we scraped the data of those groups that were linked to that reporter, so that one company could do oppo research and prepare a PR counterattack, targeting specific journalists" X "That wasn't nefarious. We made…

>X "Yes, but when we do it, it's not doxxing"

Was this just you making up someone's response? Because neither of those companies listed in the title sell people's info.

Your comment is just a terrible strawman.

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