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Azure Government and ICE

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Re: Azure Government and ICE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, to be fair, the linked post was published in January, well before any of the kid-snatching articles were in the news.

So this technology is probably currently in use to help massive human rights violations go better for the people perpetrating them.

It's not a "human right" to illegally enter a country. I happen to be pro-open borders, but understand the opposing side's view.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

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post #5
post #2

This seems like the absolute worst time for anyone to be touting the amount of help they're giving to a federal agency, especially one that is ripping children away from their parents.

Well, to be fair, the linked post was published in January, well before any of the kid-snatching articles were in the news.

That's fair. I guess I'm used to things being posted to be fairly recent unless otherwise called out in the title.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this technology is probably currently in use to help massive human rights violations go better for the people perpetrating them.

It's not a "human right" to illegally enter a country. I happen to be pro-open borders, but understand the opposing side's view.

It is, however, a massive human rights violation to separate children and parents like that. Regardless of what the opposing side believes regarding entering the country, that action is simply barbaric.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

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I hate to say it, but demonizing ICE seems like the wrong thing. It's the executive administration that direct ICE and Congress that tells ICE the laws to enforce. That's not to say they are blameless but we could point fingers at pretty much every federal agency. ICE is just in the crosshairs at the moment.

No, ICE and those who choose to work for them and carry out those orders are just as much to blame. "Following orders" is not an excuse.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

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The was a good book the title I forgot about, how IBM almost went bankrupt before thriving because of political contracts with Nazi party to design and deliver system to clasify prisoners in concentration camps during Hitler’s era. Seriously this is not a poor-taste joke!!

That book is called IBM and The Holocaust and it is indeed very good. IBM wasn't going bankrupt before working with the Nazi's though. It talks about how IBM rolled out punch-card technology originally developed for the census to the Nazi's via its German subsidiaries. I don't see the parallels here though. Nazi's were detaining and murdering their own citizens. ICE is enforcing existing laws against illegal immigrat…

ICE is ripping children away from their parents, and locking them in camps. No matter your political affiliation, you should find that abhorrent.

And there is exactly no law which requires this. It is entirely a Trump administration directive.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

#26

I hate to say it, but demonizing ICE seems like the wrong thing. It's the executive administration that direct ICE and Congress that tells ICE the laws to enforce. That's not to say they are blameless but we could point fingers at pretty much every federal agency. ICE is just in the crosshairs at the moment.

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Re: Azure Government and ICE

#27
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a "human right" to illegally enter a country. I happen to be pro-open borders, but understand the opposing side's view.

It is, however, a massive human rights violation to separate children and parents like that. Regardless of what the opposing side believes regarding entering the country, that action is simply barbaric.

Incorrect. If a parent commits murder, do we imprision the child with them? No.

People are breaking the law and their families are being separated because of it. This is squarely on the people breaking the law, not the people enforcing it.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

#28
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That book is called IBM and The Holocaust and it is indeed very good. IBM wasn't going bankrupt before working with the Nazi's though. It talks about how IBM rolled out punch-card technology originally developed for the census to the Nazi's via its German subsidiaries. I don't see the parallels here though. Nazi's were detaining and murdering their own citizens. ICE is enforcing existing laws against illegal immigrat…

ICE is ripping children away from their parents, and locking them in camps. No matter your political affiliation, you should find that abhorrent. And there is exactly no law which requires this. It is entirely a Trump administration directive.

As I mentioned to you in my other comment...

People are breaking the law and their families are suffering because of it. It has nothing to do with Trump, it's a conscious risk these people are taking as they attempt to bring their families into the country illegally.

Re: Azure Government and ICE

#30
What about Microsoft doing the right thing for once by not providing services to USA agencies performing crimes agaist humanity?

Don’t know what are the implications of canceling their contract with ICE or Homeland Security, but they should know they can not become enablers of this criminal policy.

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