Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook • Hacker News Board

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by skmurphy » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:02 PM UTC

Aetius wrote: post #12

I'm sorry, but its just not worth expending the extra effort to get you signed up to my service. I can get millions of people before it even starts becoming an issue.

You might make the same argument for only supporting IE as the only browser you app works with. I suspect it's actually an issue from day one as there are folks who would sign up but don't because you require Facebook.

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by skmurphy » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:03 PM UTC

jat850 wrote: post #10

Detrus wrote: post #5

What about Twitter?

Just as bad, in my mind. But I could be alone on that.

You are not alone.

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by dboyd » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:04 PM UTC

Aetius wrote: post #12

I'm sorry, but its just not worth expending the extra effort to get you signed up to my service. I can get millions of people before it even starts becoming an issue.

You are aware that there are more people not on facebook than people on facebook, right?

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:04 PM UTC

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Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by mike-cardwell » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:05 PM UTC

Surely it's easier to write your own authentication system than plug in to Facebooks?

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by Aetius » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:05 PM UTC

dboyd wrote: post #23

Aetius wrote: post #12

I'm sorry, but its just not worth expending the extra effort to get you signed up to my service. I can get millions of people before it even starts becoming an issue.

You are aware that there are more people not on facebook than people on facebook, right?

I am. What you're probably not aware of is who my market is (hint: 90% of them have facebook accounts).

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by aditya » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:05 PM UTC

Detrus wrote: post #5

What about Twitter?

Much easier to have a throw-away Twitter account than FB.

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by awakeasleep » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:06 PM UTC

itg wrote: post #8

For me it's more of a matter of privacy. I do have a facebook account but still refuse to log into any site that wants me to connect with facebook.

Sharing my connection information, some of my real life activities and hobbies, and a few private messages with Facebook seems risky enough already. When another company wants me to connect, my mind just balks.

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by easyfrag » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:06 PM UTC

akozak wrote: post #6

Is the perception that we will be nefariously ingesting your private data? Or that FB auth is just a trend? Or just a mistaken assumption that all users actually have a Facebook account?

Personally for me as a user it's because I don't trust Facebook.

I also think it is a bad idea to outsource your authentication mechanism to a single private entity. What happens if your user deletes their account? What if Facebook thinks your site exhibits suspicious behavior and decides to not send along its users' authentication? Probably won't happen but if it does it could be a world of hurt, much like PayPal.

Re: Start ups, please don't force me to log in with Facebook

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 27, 2010, 6:06 PM UTC

gojomo wrote: post #9

loire280 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the purpose of the fee to filter out spammers and trolls in the same way that attaching your Facebook credentials creates some amount of social accountability for your actions in the service?

Yes -- a speedbump/proof-of-commitment.

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