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FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by BowBun »

ebikelaw wrote: post #19
ben1040 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encryption in transit doesn't imply encryption at rest. For instance, WhatsApp on Android will happily back up to Google Drive, if you allow it, and it does so in cleartext.

Nothing on Google Drive is stored "in clear text".

...are you a Google Drive dev? How can you possibly make this statement?

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by xwvvvvwx »

ebikelaw wrote: post #19
ben1040 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encryption in transit doesn't imply encryption at rest. For instance, WhatsApp on Android will happily back up to Google Drive, if you allow it, and it does so in cleartext.

Nothing on Google Drive is stored "in clear text".

It's clear to Google.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by forapurpose »

patrickg_zill wrote: post #20
civilitty wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of trouble. A Ukrainian national said in an interview that he testified in front of a grand jury convened by the Mueller investigation last Friday. He said that the prosecutor's questions focused on Cohen so he is about to be squeezed from both sides and his family is now selling several multimillion dollar apartments (including his in-laws), supposedly to cover legal bills. His current legal team will cease al…

I was under the impression that grand jury questioning was not to be disclosed? Am I wrong about this?

It often is leaked, despite the rules.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by civilitty »

patrickg_zill wrote: post #20
civilitty wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of trouble. A Ukrainian national said in an interview that he testified in front of a grand jury convened by the Mueller investigation last Friday. He said that the prosecutor's questions focused on Cohen so he is about to be squeezed from both sides and his family is now selling several multimillion dollar apartments (including his in-laws), supposedly to cover legal bills. His current legal team will cease al…

I was under the impression that grand jury questioning was not to be disclosed? Am I wrong about this?

The jurors are not allowed to talk about the proceedings but unless the judge institutes a gag order or the contents of the testimony are otherwise protected (i.e., the case involves a child whose identity must be kept sealed, person testifying has security clearance and the topic is classified, etc.), witnesses can do whatever they please.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by wmf »

patrickg_zill wrote: post #20
civilitty wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of trouble. A Ukrainian national said in an interview that he testified in front of a grand jury convened by the Mueller investigation last Friday. He said that the prosecutor's questions focused on Cohen so he is about to be squeezed from both sides and his family is now selling several multimillion dollar apartments (including his in-laws), supposedly to cover legal bills. His current legal team will cease al…

I was under the impression that grand jury questioning was not to be disclosed? Am I wrong about this?

Bribing foreign government officials is not to be disclosed either, but here we are.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

ebikelaw wrote: post #19
ben1040 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encryption in transit doesn't imply encryption at rest. For instance, WhatsApp on Android will happily back up to Google Drive, if you allow it, and it does so in cleartext.

Nothing on Google Drive is stored "in clear text".

If I put a file with certain content into Google Drive, then Google Drive, or a subpoena for my Google Drive data, will return exactly those contents.

Hence, it is reasonable to apply any distinction to the content as a user of Google Drive sees it, and not as it may be stored on the backend. Hence, if the data WhatsApp pushes to the Google Drive API is unencrypted (and we're talking about the data, not about the HTTPS-encapsulated form that passes over the network), it is reasonable to call it "in clear text", and it wouldn't be reasonable to call it encrypted.

Re: FBI Recovers WhatsApp, Signal Data Stored on Michael Cohen’s BlackBerry

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Post by wpdev_63 »

MilnerRoute wrote: post #11

Manfort [not Cohen, as I originally wrote, but Manafort] had his message stored on iCloud. That turned out to be part of how the FBI was able to recover them so easily. https://gizmodo.com/paul-manafort-learns-that-encrypting-mes...

Well I am not sure about blackberry but android and ios are fully compromised[0].

0:https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/?

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