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Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by EpicEng » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:22 PM UTC

the-dude wrote: post #16

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

I think most people mirrored instead of closing. Spin.

>I think most people

Based on... what exactly? That's a big claim to make without any data.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by jbob2000 » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:24 PM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

It's not about the number of the accounts that move, but the importance of the accounts. A couple of personal projects move? Whoop-di-doo. A huge, popular open source app moves? Or a GitHub rockstar leaves? That's big news.

So I don't care really care how many leave, in fact that's a clever distraction. I care about who is leaving.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by geezerjay » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:25 PM UTC

EpicEng wrote: post #21

the-dude wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most people mirrored instead of closing. Spin.

>I think most people Based on... what exactly? That's a big claim to make without any data.

Speaking on behalf of myself and myself alone, I have published stuff that links to my personal github repos. So although I've already migrated those projects to Gitlab, like the OP said Github is still used as a mirror.

I imagine how hard it must be for organizations to do the same.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by eklavya » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:27 PM UTC

Ever since I heard of "Monaco" the online code editor which is used in VSCode. I always assumed Microsoft will eventually come up with a completely online IDE >> deploy toolchain like a GitHub on steroids. I think this acquisition is pretty much all about that. Nobody seems to have mentioned this yet though, at least not that I have read of.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by thedailymail » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:28 PM UTC

antirez wrote: post #19

ajeet_dhaliwal wrote: post #3

What would you rather fight - a horse sized duck, or 100 duck sized horses? Hope he answers that one.

You can use this trick against 100 duck sized horses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae

You can use a version of the same trick against a horse-sized duck if you have a slightly smaller doorway

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by pera » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:29 PM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

The announcement happened just 3 days ago, so it's still too early to draw any conclusions.

I personally decided to move my stuff out of GitHub, but it will take me a week or so to know where exactly as I'm still analyzing various options. And after migrating, I don't think I will close my account (even when I really distrust Microsoft) simply because too many libre software projects are currently using GitHub.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by vokep » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:30 PM UTC

EpicEng wrote: post #21

the-dude wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think most people mirrored instead of closing. Spin.

>I think most people Based on... what exactly? That's a big claim to make without any data.

its a reasonable expectation. You don't need any data to understand that most people will care about certain things in a given situation. (and actually, in making such a generalization, data is being used to make that, its a bit difficult to present that data since its more of a soft 'life experience and understanding of what positions others might be in and choices they might make in such positions' kind of data.)

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by craftyguy » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:30 PM UTC

hari_seldon_ wrote: post #15

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

This is the standard HN effect. I also love when I think some startups are killing it based on what I read here; but then they end up shutting down soon after due to a lack of any real revenue model.

Given how 1) he's provided no evidence to support his claim, 2) he would never publicly say "a significant number of users have moved", and 3) gitlab has a public tracker showing thousands of projects being imported, I'd take his comment with a large grain of salt.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by craftyguy » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:32 PM UTC

the-dude wrote: post #16

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

I think most people mirrored instead of closing. Spin.

I moved 2 dozen personal repos out of github, and I plan to move the repos associated with my work too. I'm definitely not alone.

Re: I’m Nat Friedman, Future CEO of GitHub. AMA

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Post by beberlei » Thu, Jun 07, 2018, 6:33 PM UTC

marricks wrote: post #18

jameslk wrote: post #11

> That said, the GitHub team reports that the set of users who have migrated or closed their accounts is extremely small, and this is more than made up for by the surge of new signups and new interest in GitHub this week. It's interesting to hear this. If you were on HN the past week, it might have seemed from all the front page articles that GitHub was about to implode due to an an exodus to GitLab.

I’m more willing to believe the openly viewable GitLab migration tracker, which shows several thousand projects migrated. Just another way Gitlab is nice is the openly viewable statistics versus a generalization. https://about.gitlab.com/2018/06/03/movingtogitlab/

a few hundred thousand repositories of the 85 million reported Github repositories is really not much, see https://github.com/ten at the bottom for the number.