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Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #11

When the NY Times covered the Chinese robotic moon landing, it was in the top 10 stories for more than a week. In the most space-jaded country on the planet. The rating was sustained by constant comments by Chinese studying in the US and burnishing their reps with the Party. You can almost always make Chinese English, an AI program could be trained to do it. I wrote to their ombudsman. Down in a day.

What corpus did you train off?

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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This is great. Please, please let this concept enter the general public's mind.

Do you mean the concept that: "Any/all organizations can/do seed a particular narrative to serve their strategic purposes" ?

I doubt it, since that's not at all what the paper describes. Here's a quote from the abstract:

> In contrast to prior claims, we show that the Chinese regime's strategy is to avoid arguing with skeptics of the party and the government, and to not even discuss controversial issues. We show that the goal of this massive secretive operation is instead to distract the public and change the subject, as most of the these posts involve cheerleading for China, the revolutionary history of the Communist Party, or other symbols of the regime.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #20

Does anyone think this does not happen in other countries? Maybe even in your own country (but not ours, obviously)? And not just by governments, but by political parties, foreign entities, corporations, lobbying groups, interest groups, etc, any entity with an interest in distracting, muddying, defining a narrative, or swaying opinion? And once you consider that, consider the numerous potential reasons why social me…

Yes it happens all the times from the newspapers. They select topics to cover or not (first biais) then cover it the want they want to fit their narratives (second level biais). In France, one of the most renowned newspaper (Le Monde) have a dedicated team (Les Décodeurs) to make posts about every politically sensitive topics. The official raison d'être of the team is to fight fake news, but the way they wrote is so fake-newish it becomes like an art performance.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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I think the last remark about Xi Jinping's wife was uncalled for (I'm Taiwanese American).

Yet it is a fact. Not only do trolls seek to degrade and destroy freedom and democracy, they defend a bunch of corrupt morons who's only real ability is to either steal or exploit their own people.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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> Many academics, and most journalists and activists, claim that these so-called 50c party posts vociferously argue for the government’s side in political and policy debates. As we show, this is also true of most posts openly accused on social media of being 50c.

I am not a native speaker. I can't parse that sentence :/.

Why is this `also` true ? In addition to what ? Wouldn't it follow that posts arguing in favour of the government's side are tagged as `50c` since `50c` seems to be defined by being `pro government` ?

And then:

> [..] we show that the Chinese regime’s strategy is to avoid arguing with skeptics of the party and the government, and to not even discuss controversial issues.

If I ignore the `also` word in the first quote it all makes sense.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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I agree with a sibling comment, you put together a good observation about how the posts get down voted and eventually getting out of the first page every time, but I think you should edit the last comment about his Xi Jinping's Wife.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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> Whenver there is any negative story about china, the downvotes happen immediately and "defends of the honor of china" pop up magically throwing dirt everywhere.

Maybe a little, but the main thing I see in stories like that is dozens of comments that that derail the comments into a "the US is just as bad!" flame-war, and kill discussion of the negative story.

It's really effective, because Western users are often ignorant of China and/or indifferent to it, but will happily jump into a flame-war about Western countries when presented with the bait.

Re: Chinese Government Fabricates Social Media Posts for Strategic Distraction

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post #10

And water is wet. Israel is at the forefront of it https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/11/in... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/08/14/israel-... You mean the chinese are focused on propaganda as much as we are? As much as israel, britain, russia and everyone else? Amazing.

Why is this downvoted? All governments do propaganda, this is a well known fact.

One particular interesting thing about this particular case is the scale and the focus, but do we really think other governments don't try? Even companies astroturf.

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