How is this not pure corruption? How is it legal? Do we live in a banana republic?
Never let a good tax cut go to waste. Or something like that anyway.
Trump Defends ZTE Concession After Sparking Bipartisan Rebuke
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
No the company made itself go out of business. First they violated export restrictions, then after apologizing and paying a fine it turned out they had explicit intent to continue violating export restrictions. In response they were told they could no longer purchase American technology. Then they chose to go out of business. They chose to go out of business. No one required that they break the law, and if they hadn’…
> No the company made itself go out of business. And for that 75k people should loose their job? Or can we try to find a better solution?
If you have a better solution, something that guarantees that ZTE won't be making products for the US market that are designed to spy on Americans, I'm all ears.
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#23Trade negotiations are underway. This is a part of that, as was the initial ban. Trump does this again and again: he creates leverage in the form of negative consequences should he walk away from the table. Then he gives some of it back much to the relief of the other side, in exchange for something else he needs. He negotiated thousands of deals, some of which were very complicated. It could well be that he’s the st…
>It could well be that he’s the strongest negotiator we ever had in that position. So strong that he can't negotiate deals beneficial enough for him that he can afford to hold up his end of them, and instead files for bankruptcy so that he doesn't have to pay for it. He's taken such good care of all of the hard working US citizens he's interacted with in his days as a business man.
Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years...
Looks like good negotiation to me. South Korea’s foreign minister even credited him for his work on the deal (which is still ongoing).
Hate Trump all you want, but fact of the matter is he’s a damn good salesman, marketer and negotiator. It’s how he won the primaries and the presidency. And now it’s how he’s winning diplomacy.
You can have a problem with his tactics, but at this point the results are really starting to speak for themselves.
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>It could well be that he’s the strongest negotiator we ever had in that position. So strong that he can't negotiate deals beneficial enough for him that he can afford to hold up his end of them, and instead files for bankruptcy so that he doesn't have to pay for it. He's taken such good care of all of the hard working US citizens he's interacted with in his days as a business man.
Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years... Looks like good negotiation to me. South Korea’s foreign minister even credited him for his work on the deal (which is still ongoing). Hate Trump all you want, but fact of the matter is he’s a damn good salesman, marketer and negotiator. It’s how he won the primaries and the presiden…
>Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years...
That's exactly what I think. I can't begin to fathom why anyone would think that he does. Because of the ridiculous tweets?
The obvious reason for the increased discussions between North and South Korea is that China has been less and less supportive of North Korea - a trend that started long before Trump took office - and Kim Jung Un isn't an idiot. Without China's support, North Korea ceases to exist. The only way for Kim Jung Un to survive with any measure of power is to make nice with the South.
Trump has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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>It could well be that he’s the strongest negotiator we ever had in that position. So strong that he can't negotiate deals beneficial enough for him that he can afford to hold up his end of them, and instead files for bankruptcy so that he doesn't have to pay for it. He's taken such good care of all of the hard working US citizens he's interacted with in his days as a business man.
And yet he still has 4 billion dollars and is a president of the US. Must be pretty good at negotiating.
> president of the US. Must be pretty good at negotiating
My understanding is that Paul Manafort, Donald Jr, etc are the ones who did most of the negotiating with Natalia Veselnitskaya.
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> This is not to say that the two are necessarily connected so much as it's to say that not investigating the timing of the two is to exhibit a lack of due diligence. They don't even have to be connected with any explicit quid pro quo between the parties. It could all be implicit from the Chinese government knowing full well who the owner of the Trump Organization is. Trump had a recourse, he could have easily put hi…
Further, when it comes to other high offices, like judges, the appearance of conflicts are as problematic as actual conflicts. Such that care beyond standard conflict checks is required to prevent having to investigate every relationship and decision.
I've always found this deeply disturbing. By not putting his assets into a blind trust, Donald Trump made it easy for foreign governments to create the appearance of impropriety. This suggests that he may not fully grasp how dangerous it is to give someone the power to blackmail you.
Anyone in public service should understand this, though clearly Trump isn't alone on this one.
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>It could well be that he’s the strongest negotiator we ever had in that position. So strong that he can't negotiate deals beneficial enough for him that he can afford to hold up his end of them, and instead files for bankruptcy so that he doesn't have to pay for it. He's taken such good care of all of the hard working US citizens he's interacted with in his days as a business man.
And yet he still has 4 billion dollars and is a president of the US. Must be pretty good at negotiating.
> And yet he still has 4 billion dollars
Well, no, they doesn't seem to be true, but he has quite a bit net worth, as a result of generating mediocre returns on family-derived wealth. Unless he negotiated with his Creator for what family he would be issued when sent to Earth, that's not really much of an endorsement of unusually strong negotiating skills.
> and is a president of the US.
Mostly a product of an unusually weak opponent, not negotiating strength (to the extent there is anything arguably unusual about negotiations by Trump on the road to the White House, it's the “who with” and not the “how well”.)
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Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years... Looks like good negotiation to me. South Korea’s foreign minister even credited him for his work on the deal (which is still ongoing). Hate Trump all you want, but fact of the matter is he’s a damn good salesman, marketer and negotiator. It’s how he won the primaries and the presiden…
>Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years... That's exactly what I think. I can't begin to fathom why anyone would think that he does. Because of the ridiculous tweets? The obvious reason for the increased discussions between North and South Korea is that China has been less and less supportive of North Korea - a trend that st…
So the South Korean foreign minister is just making things up?
Or maybe you have a preconceived notion you are unwilling to reconcile with the evidence in front of you?
Re: Trump Defends ZTE Concession After Sparking Bipartisan Rebuke
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Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years... Looks like good negotiation to me. South Korea’s foreign minister even credited him for his work on the deal (which is still ongoing). Hate Trump all you want, but fact of the matter is he’s a damn good salesman, marketer and negotiator. It’s how he won the primaries and the presiden…
>Do you think Trump played no part in negotiating peace between the Koreas? No president has been able to accomplish that in 53 years... That's exactly what I think. I can't begin to fathom why anyone would think that he does. Because of the ridiculous tweets? The obvious reason for the increased discussions between North and South Korea is that China has been less and less supportive of North Korea - a trend that st…
Let's also not forget that North Korea's nuclear weapons facilities were recently damaged in an earthquake.
As we say in finance, if you think the world undervalues a thing then you buy it, and if you think the world overvalues a thing then you sell it. Kim's weapons program suffered a significant setback, making it less valuable in his eyes. Meanwhile the rest of the world still places a high value on getting Kim to abandon the program.
In other words, Kim probably has more to gain from abandoning the program than he does from trying to repair the damage. Even if we had a sack of potatoes in the White House, it still makes sense for Kim to try to make a peace deal right now.