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Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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Re: Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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As a animal why would I need to goto the effort of pleasing the opposite sex if I get all the gratification for free with porn and without the stresses and hassle, of an expensive marriage and nagging?

Many (most) people want more than orgasm out of partners... love-making itself, company, someone to love. Not to mention those who want families.

Re: Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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post #8

If you're not aware 'incel's are the woman-hating group so vile they were kicked off reddit and one of them committed the van attack in Toronto recently.

What percentage of those who are "involuntarily celibate" do you suppose have substantially the same beliefs or opinions as the vile woman-hating terrorists? Should we suspect only those who publicly identify as such, or would it be more appropriate to initiate a witch hunt to remove them from society root and branch?

Yes

Re: Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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post #8

If you're not aware 'incel's are the woman-hating group so vile they were kicked off reddit and one of them committed the van attack in Toronto recently.

Incel is a generic term for involuntarily celibate people. Volcel is for voluntarily celibate people. Both considered weird and unnatural by majority. Don't conflate it with some organized group that reused the name, that would be a pretty big scientific mistake, likely politically motivated.

I will mistake the terms because they're both made up.

Re: Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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Thus starts the demographic inversion. Hopefully we can fix it before we go the way of Japan.

What's the downside or "the way of Japan"?

They had a terrible 20 year economic hangover due to a massive bubble poorly handled, and that definitely had massive negative social spillover effects. But over the past 15 years social surveys have shown increasing (and solidly net positive) happiness and satisfaction with the quality of life across all demographic groups except the extremely old. Notably, over the past decade Japanese life satisfaction levels are higher than the same surveys show in North America and Europe.

An economic system that depends on a pyramid model is ultimately unsustainable. I don't mean in the "there's a population bomb problem the planet's going to die unless we do something!" sense -- I don't in fact agree with that. But there's no reason why the system can't and ought not achieve balance.

Re: Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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post #19
post #8

If you're not aware 'incel's are the woman-hating group so vile they were kicked off reddit and one of them committed the van attack in Toronto recently.

Incel is a generic term for involuntarily celibate people. Volcel is for voluntarily celibate people. Both considered weird and unnatural by majority. Don't conflate it with some organized group that reused the name, that would be a pretty big scientific mistake, likely politically motivated.

I'd argue that "incel" is a specialized label, just like "antifa".

If you identify as an "incel", that's a more loaded point than just saying you are "involuntarily celibate". Similarly, you could say you are "against fascists" without implying all the connotations that go along with saying you are an "antifa".

Re: Male Sexlessness Is Rising, but Not for the Reasons Incels Claim

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incel is a generic term for involuntarily celibate people. Volcel is for voluntarily celibate people. Both considered weird and unnatural by majority. Don't conflate it with some organized group that reused the name, that would be a pretty big scientific mistake, likely politically motivated.

I will mistake the terms because they're both made up.

Like most of terms we use ;-)
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