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They're not dead, they just can't offer push notifications, or automatically update your timeline when there's a new tweet. Nothing else in Tweetbot will have to change.
So that kills a lot of the point of the app?
If you want to move with your feet, Mastodon [1] is rapidly growing in popularity, and it's completely open source [2].
Disclaimer: I used to run a mastodon instance, now I run a pleroma [3] instance to save on memory/cpu usage. Feel free to ask me any questions.
[1]: https://joinmastodon.org/
I deleted my twitter account a while ago but this is a new level of forgetting history. If I remember correctly Twitterrific/Iconfactory were the first folks to actually use the verb 'tweet', and absolutely provided the first iteration of the interface to twitter that we all expect today. It took acquiring Tweetie, which literally invented 'pull to refresh', before they had their own native app 3 years after Twitterr…
Twitter basically encouraged a third-party ecosystem to blossom, then decided that rather than finding ways to monetize that ecosystem, they should start slowly strangling it to death. I can't imagine that this is happening because investors are insisting on it; yes, they want a positive return on their investment, but who's really saying, "If only you guys knife Tweetbot, the stock price will double!"? There's a very small minority of users who use third-party clients, but those users are disproportionately the highly engaged "super tweeters," if you will. Is supporting them -- ideally better than they do now -- really so expensive that it's easier to just kill them? And if the answer is yes, is it really better to keep pretending that you're not doing that, and instead just make the experience of third-party developers and dedicated Twitter users steadily worse over time?
I just find it strange how developer-hostile twitter is, considering the community it once fostered. If you want to move with your feet, Mastodon [1] is rapidly growing in popularity, and it's completely open source [2]. Disclaimer: I used to run a mastodon instance, now I run a pleroma [3] instance to save on memory/cpu usage. Feel free to ask me any questions. [1]: https://joinmastodon.org/ [2]: https://github.com/…
Think about the money and it's not so strange. Everyone has a price.
I'm not saying it's right, but it's not a mystery. The got big off the backs of others and they've been screwing them over ever since. People building stuff on top of Twitter are crazy. They've been developer hostile for years and years now.
I just find it strange how developer-hostile twitter is, considering the community it once fostered. If you want to move with your feet, Mastodon [1] is rapidly growing in popularity, and it's completely open source [2]. Disclaimer: I used to run a mastodon instance, now I run a pleroma [3] instance to save on memory/cpu usage. Feel free to ask me any questions. [1]: https://joinmastodon.org/ [2]: https://github.com/…
More from Apps of a Feather: 1) Push notifications will no longer arrive 2) Timelines won’t refresh automatically If you use an app like Talon, Tweetbot, Tweetings, or Twitterrific, there is no way for its developer to fix these issues. http://apps-of-a-feather.com/
So tweetbot is dead then? Why can't twitter make a decent app on it's own? This shouldn't be complicated...
They don't want to make a decent app. They've bought great apps and shuttered them. They want you to use the web client.
I just find it strange how developer-hostile twitter is, considering the community it once fostered. If you want to move with your feet, Mastodon [1] is rapidly growing in popularity, and it's completely open source [2]. Disclaimer: I used to run a mastodon instance, now I run a pleroma [3] instance to save on memory/cpu usage. Feel free to ask me any questions. [1]: https://joinmastodon.org/ [2]: https://github.com/…
I’ve been meaning to start my own Pleroma instance due do the excessive hardware requirements of the Mastodon client. How would you compare the two projects since you’ve used both?
Mastodon is really nice, but it's fairly intensive. Precompiling the rails/webpack assets in particular made my tiny VPS choke, even with 4GB of memory I believe. It also requires Sidekiq and other services [1].
Pleroma is newer and written in Elixir/Phoenix purely as an API. It only has itself as a dependency, and it's lean enough to run on a Raspberry Pi. It offers two frontends, pleroma-fe and mastofe, the latter is a port of Mastodon's UX.
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Features wise, Pleroma doesn't really have a lot beyond the basic functionality of subscribing to people, posting, etc. There aren't real moderation tools (yet), since it's mostly a weekend project for the core devs. Blocking instances requires an IP block still, I think.
Mastodon wins features-wise, hands down. But some things aren't really easy to reconfigure- since the frontend is baked in, changing things like the post character limit (500 chars) is tedious. In pleroma it's a simple config file change.
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I like Pleroma personally but it's not for everyone (yet). I plan on contributing more soon to help change that.
I also was only running single user instances so I can't really discuss scaling. @technowix@niu.moe [2] would be better to ask about that, considering their instance has ~3k users [3].
[1]: https://github.com/tootsuite/documentation/blob/master/Runni...
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They're not dead, they just can't offer push notifications, or automatically update your timeline when there's a new tweet. Nothing else in Tweetbot will have to change.
So that kills a lot of the point of the app?
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I’ve been meaning to start my own Pleroma instance due do the excessive hardware requirements of the Mastodon client. How would you compare the two projects since you’ve used both?
So currently, choosing Mastodon vs Pleroma boils down to what you care more about: performance/less complexity, or more features/maturity. Mastodon is really nice, but it's fairly intensive. Precompiling the rails/webpack assets in particular made my tiny VPS choke, even with 4GB of memory I believe. It also requires Sidekiq and other services [1]. Pleroma is newer and written in Elixir/Phoenix purely as an API. It o…
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Its spam because all you're doing is linking to the mastodon website, instead of actually talking and joining the conversation.
I respectfully disagree. I could regurgitate the content on the website but that would hardly be any more substantive. Often these threads lead to curious people asking questions about Mastodon, and I'm happy to answer them and engage in more discussion.