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The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Is it me, or is pi hole way more popular than it should be? Compared to the alternatives, it's worse in almost every way. It only works on your local network, so good luck blocking ads while you're at work, using mobile data, or at a cafe. Browser based adblockers (which is available on most desktop browsers, mobile safari, and firefox for android) can block elements and url patterns, pi hole can't. Even if you're on…

The difference with pi-hole is that since it blocks it at the DNS level the network traffic doesn't even reach you, saving on bandwidth. It will also be faster than most browser based ad blockers since the browser has to analyze every webpage whereas pi-hole blocks by simply not making a request. Also if you want a DNS that works outside your local network it would be trivial to get a cloud server for $5 a month put…

Every major ad-blocking browser extension blocks based on URL patterns and CSS selectors. Requests that match URL patterns on the blacklist are dropped, which is at least as fast and saves at least as much bandwidth as blocking at the DNS level. More, really, since URL patterns can block individual paths under a domain, blocking ad scripts hosted on the same domain as content you want to load.

Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Is it me, or is pi hole way more popular than it should be? Compared to the alternatives, it's worse in almost every way. It only works on your local network, so good luck blocking ads while you're at work, using mobile data, or at a cafe. Browser based adblockers (which is available on most desktop browsers, mobile safari, and firefox for android) can block elements and url patterns, pi hole can't. Even if you're on…

All you need is a VPN (such as OpenVPN) or SNT (such as ZeroTier) to your home router with your Pi-Hole. Which is conceivable on mobile, though it does cost some power (but you also don't see/load the ads saving bandwidth and CPU cycles). A Pi-Hole on a Raspberry Pi doesn't cost much electricity-wise; it does cost something for the hardware but you can use the RPi for more that just Pi-Hole. An alternative is Ublock Origin which works in Firefox and Chrome (even Firefox Mobile) but it isn't OS-wide.

Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Surely the next step is for websites to host their own ads again? They can even forward cookies on to ad networks etc.

Would be great if this would be an option, especially with the GDPR coming. But for small to medium sized publishers there are no ads you could host your own.

Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Is it me, or is pi hole way more popular than it should be? Compared to the alternatives, it's worse in almost every way. It only works on your local network, so good luck blocking ads while you're at work, using mobile data, or at a cafe. Browser based adblockers (which is available on most desktop browsers, mobile safari, and firefox for android) can block elements and url patterns, pi hole can't. Even if you're on…

Just get a raspberry pi, the power usage is negligble.

Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Is it me, or is pi hole way more popular than it should be? Compared to the alternatives, it's worse in almost every way. It only works on your local network, so good luck blocking ads while you're at work, using mobile data, or at a cafe. Browser based adblockers (which is available on most desktop browsers, mobile safari, and firefox for android) can block elements and url patterns, pi hole can't. Even if you're on…

Pi Hole is free, unless you're counting the system you have to run it off of (like a raspberry pi) but you can run it off any device you want like a virtual machine at home for instance, so you only need to buy a Raspberry Pi if that's how you intend to operate it. The benefit of it, is it blocks a lot more than just ads. For instance, it blocks any attempts to "phone home" by my smart TV or by applications I use suc…

>Pi Hole is free, unless you're counting the system you have to run it off of (like a raspberry pi) but you can run it off any device you want like a virtual machine at home for instance, so you only need to buy a Raspberry Pi if that's how you intend to operate it.

That was addressed in the parent comment under footnote [1].

Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Is it me, or is pi hole way more popular than it should be? Compared to the alternatives, it's worse in almost every way. It only works on your local network, so good luck blocking ads while you're at work, using mobile data, or at a cafe. Browser based adblockers (which is available on most desktop browsers, mobile safari, and firefox for android) can block elements and url patterns, pi hole can't. Even if you're on…

I thought you had to root your Android to block ads? In my household we have four people with smartphones and another four laptops. That's a lot of ads to block. Blocking ads on my laptop made a more noticeable improvement to web browsing than increasing my network bandwidth.

> I thought you had to root your Android to block ads?

Maybe with Chrome, but there's an Android version of Firefox that lets you install uBlock Origin:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fi...

Re: The Brotherhood of the Ad Blockers

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Is it me, or is pi hole way more popular than it should be? Compared to the alternatives, it's worse in almost every way. It only works on your local network, so good luck blocking ads while you're at work, using mobile data, or at a cafe. Browser based adblockers (which is available on most desktop browsers, mobile safari, and firefox for android) can block elements and url patterns, pi hole can't. Even if you're on…

Just get a raspberry pi, the power usage is negligble.

$35 for the device + ??? for accessories, compared to $0 for downloading an adblocker.
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