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Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by morsch »

gruez wrote: post #17
Karunamon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware . Wiki > Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

>... is software that generates revenue for its developer ... does pocket suggesting stories somehow generate revenue for Mozilla?

Mozilla owns Pocket. They're not calling them Pocket Sponsored Stories to be cute. You, too, can now buy screen space in the premiere open-source browser: https://getpocket.com/sponsor

I think it's a disgrace.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by [deleted] »

gruez wrote: post #17
Karunamon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware . Wiki > Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

>... is software that generates revenue for its developer ... does pocket suggesting stories somehow generate revenue for Mozilla?

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Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by Karunamon »

kibwen wrote: post #20
Karunamon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware . Wiki > Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

Because by that definition Firefox has been adware since Firefox 1.5, released in 2005, due to the ubiquitous "Google" logo in the search box that every user sees by default upon installing the browser, and for which Firefox receives the bulk of its revenue.

That's significantly more defensible (it has to search somewhere by default, and most engines are known by their logos, and Google is the only search engine worth a crap) than imposing paid sites on you by default.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by kodablah »

malfeasance wrote: post #3

Pocket Sponsored Stories will appear for a percentage of users in the US. Read about our privacy-conscious approach to sponsored content If you can't roll out a feature without violating EU privacy laws, you're not employing a "privacy-conscious approach."

> If you can't roll out a feature without violating EU privacy laws, you're not employing a "privacy-conscious approach."

Correction, 'you're not employing a "privacy-conscious approach" by EU standards'. The EU does not define for the world what privacy-conscious means.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by nailer »

Switched from Chrome for privacy reasons a couple of months ago. As a webdev (and hence heavy DevTools user), it feels excellent, the inspector's a little bit faster, and having containers for Facebook and Google tracking services is excellent. Spell check in text boxes doesn't work though - apparently it should, I have no idea why it doesn't.

Re: Firefox 60 released

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Post by jsgo »

Karunamon wrote: post #12
setquk wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Firefox is basically adware now.

Not sure why this comment is grey, FF is now adware by objective definition of the word adware . Wiki > Adware, or advertising-supported software, is software that generates revenue for its developer by automatically generating online advertisements in the user interface of the software or on a screen presented to the user during the installation process

Can't speak to the greying as I have no part in that. That said, while I agree to a point, to me, adware is where ads are being served that are impacting the UI proper. Because of where it happens, apparently in a new tab/window, it isn't adding advertisements when I go to a web page that weren't already there. I also don't have to do a specific action to get away from the ad: I don't have to close the ad directly, it just disappears as a result of me doing normal behavior. So while perhaps "adware" it isn't the annoying kind at the very least.

I don't use Firefox so I'm not sure what it is showing, but if it is like the new tab in Chrome that pocket's extension generates, it is basically the top 3 in the recommended section of Pocket which seems to be popular articles of no particular importance or targeted. Earlier I saw links to an article for a Ryan Reynolds interview where he talks about his anxiety (apparently, didn't read it) and another article about all cultures appropriating (again, didn't read, so going on title). If it were targeted, I'd expect articles of a more technology/development slant.

Re: Firefox 60 released

#29

Post by diggan »

apazzolini wrote: post #9

Unfortunately, looks like the CPU spikes are still a problem on OS X for me. I check this every time a new version is released as I'd love to make the switch from Chrome, but Firefox with one blank tab and no extensions uses more CPU than Chrome with 15 actual tabs. When I actually throw activity at Firefox it hogs the CPU even more. Here's hoping v61 addresses it.

I'm unsure if this is actually Firefox fault. I'm running Linux (arch and Ubuntu), Windows and macOS, and Firefox is only slow on macOS, while my macOS machine is the second most powerful machine I have. Running Firefox in a Ubuntu VM on macOS is faster than running it natively on macOS.
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