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'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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Who's responsible when someone torrents copyrighted material through that Internet exchange point? "NYC Mesh will comply with all federal laws in the countries it operates, however, as policy, no data is collected and therefore no data exists to provide requestors." This is cute, but if you aren't hunting down people abusing the mesh, the whole connection to the internet will go away for a ToS violation.

I imagine tor exit points have the exact same issues?

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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I'm in NYC. I know a few people who played with it. It barely works. I'm all for this kind of tech solutions, but for crying out loud pretending that this is a replacement for ISPs in NYC really discredits techies.

Why doesn't a startup run their own fibre? Are building owners that protective? Actually scratch that, I tried getting a 1 gig cross manhattan link. Cost more than 1g to London.

Building owners? Before you get anywhere near the buildings, you have to dig up the streets to run cabling around the city. Any idea how much that costs?

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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This stuff is cool and maybe useful in far-fetched scenarios, but it's not going to replace ISPs anytime soon. Mesh networks don't make economic sense in most circumstances. Also, I'm guessing that users share the same IP address, which can cause problems. Plus, if one user is doing something illegal and causes the supernode to get shutdown then no one on the mesh network will have access to the internet. Addition: q…

We are replacing ISPs in NYC for our members. This is now, not the future. The main thing holding us back is scaling up the number of installs.

All networks, including us, add to this expensive infrastructure. The difference with our infrastructure is it is owned and shared by members.

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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This sounds neat. Is anyone working on something like it in the SF bay area? I know there's Webpass and Monkeybrains, which are great, but I'd love to be part of a community-owned, actual mesh network.

There's the People's Open Network: https://peoplesopen.net/ co-ordinated by the SudoRoom folks and the wider community.

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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I'm curious about the technology they are using. Is it an actual mesh network or point-to-point wireless?

We are a hybrid of mesh, p2p and point to multi-point (sector antennas). Whatever is most appropriate to give the best connection for reasonable price.

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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This sounds neat. Is anyone working on something like it in the SF bay area? I know there's Webpass and Monkeybrains, which are great, but I'd love to be part of a community-owned, actual mesh network.

Not "community owned" per say, but Facebook has deployed a Mesh network in DT San Jose called Terragraph.

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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I'm in NYC. I know a few people who played with it. It barely works. I'm all for this kind of tech solutions, but for crying out loud pretending that this is a replacement for ISPs in NYC really discredits techies.

Our average speeds connecting to our supernodes is around 100Mbps. I'm not sure what you are referring to.

Re: 'Anti-authority' tech rebels take on ISPs, connect NYC with cheap Wi-Fi

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I'm in NYC. I know a few people who played with it. It barely works. I'm all for this kind of tech solutions, but for crying out loud pretending that this is a replacement for ISPs in NYC really discredits techies.

So it works, then? Good news. If you're saying that what they need is more internet bandwidth and better coverage, I'm pretty sure that's what they said themselves in the article.
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