I hate if I help people, provide the correct answer but they never accept it. SO should encourage people to accept the correct answer somehow. Maybe force them to review answers to their questions before posting new questions.
Stack Overflow Isn’t Very Welcoming – It’s Time for That to Change
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#22has anyone here ever seen women or people of color treated poorly on SO? I haven't but maybe I'm not paying enough attention
I have not.
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#23>Too many people experience Stack Overflow¹ as a hostile or elitist place, especially newer coders, women, people of color, and others in marginalized groups. Women consider SO an elitist place? People of colour? What colour? Black? White? Marginalised groups? Which groups are those? Are people in SO hostile to Palestinians? Amputees? Such an accusation, where's the data to back it? I'm white and male and completely…
I too was wondering how this shakes out. The vast majority of <100 rep users I come across that ask pretty dicey questions have a default user profile picture or a picture of something that is not a person, not associated with an ethnic/religious/political group, etc. How can a group be intentionally or unconsciously hostile to POC and women when their photo is a stock photo provided by SO and their handle is user12098739578?
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#24>Too many people experience Stack Overflow¹ as a hostile or elitist place, especially newer coders, women, people of color, and others in marginalized groups. Women consider SO an elitist place? People of colour? What colour? Black? White? Marginalised groups? Which groups are those? Are people in SO hostile to Palestinians? Amputees? Such an accusation, where's the data to back it? I'm white and male and completely…
The keyword being experience. The same behavior is experienced differently by different people, and being in a group who is more at risk for self-doubt tends to produce the experience of hostility more easily.
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#25I've never seen minorities being mistreated on stack overflow. Does anyone have any examples?
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#26I'll believe they changed when I see it. Pretty sure it's not going to any time soon.
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#27From the linked article: > Too many people experience Stack Overflow as a hostile or elitist place, especially newer coders, women, people of color, and others in marginalized groups Breaking that down... "...people experience Stack Overflow as a hostile or elitist place..." This is obvious just by looking at the discussions that happen here, or, even by observing the SO-related memes that bubble up to the top of Red…
Just to paraphrase, you're asking for more data right?
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#28I think "being nice on the internet" is typically a learned skill, unfortunately. That said, sometimes comments that appear scathing are actually warranted criticism - perpetuating "bad" knowledge can be very harmful to the person using it and to those that use their products or code.
Some of the active users in the PHP tag (where I spend some time) have pre-made snippets for common issues, like SQL injection, deprecated function use, etc.
On really problematic code, this can lead to a stampede of comments, each mentioning a different issue with grim wording, which can be really unwelcoming even if they're completely correct.
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#29>Too many people experience Stack Overflow¹ as a hostile or elitist place, especially newer coders, women, people of color, and others in marginalized groups. Women consider SO an elitist place? People of colour? What colour? Black? White? Marginalised groups? Which groups are those? Are people in SO hostile to Palestinians? Amputees? Such an accusation, where's the data to back it? I'm white and male and completely…
I don't disagree with the article in general but I was surprised by the women and people of color comments -- how does anyone know someone's gender or race on SO?
Of all the sites on the Internet, SO seems to be particularly well suited to the anonymity of posters -- even more so than HN because HN is more free form and conversational.
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#30> Feelings have no “technically correct.” They’re just what the feeler is telling you. When someone tells you how they feel, you can pack up your magnifying glass and clue kit, cuz that’s the answer. You’re done. This is such an important point and missed so often by technical types. Impressed to hear it stated so clearly here.
"I just feel it's ok to have variables named after single letters."