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Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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Hat's off to Microsoft on this one - they've earned it. I don't use Bing for my day to day search but I've used their travel search and it's not too bad. It's definitely no Hipmunk, but it's clean, minimal and pretty snappy. They've made some effort to take a dull product, make it useful, improve its design and differentiate it from the competition. Yeah, the logo is hideous and embarrassing. Yeah, they've also spent…

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Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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These numbers seem off to me. Does anyone here actually run a site where Google is only 65% of your incoming search traffic? Looking at traffic for a few of my own sites (mostly tech related, admittedly), Google is consistently in the 92-96% range.

I agree: these numbers just don't add up. Where are the sites that get 35%+ of their search traffic from Bing to balance out the plethora of sites that get 85%+ of their traffic from Google? I haven't heard of any.

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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These numbers seem off to me. Does anyone here actually run a site where Google is only 65% of your incoming search traffic? Looking at traffic for a few of my own sites (mostly tech related, admittedly), Google is consistently in the 92-96% range.

76% Google, 10% each Bing / Yahoo, 4% also-rans at BCC.

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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I'm having a hard time understanding the significance of this news given the Bing / Yahoo.com partnership (Bing started powering Yahoo.com search in late August). Going forward Bing's success will be measured in terms of its performance vis-a-vis Google, so what's the relevance that it overtook Yahoo in market share?

Most users aren't aware that Yahoo is powered by Bing, so the fact that Bing overtook Yahoo in search shows that Bing has gained (or Yahoo has lost) significant ground. This isn't searches powered by Bing, but searches actually on Bing.com.

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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I'm curious to know who "small fry" is. DuckDuckGo? ISPs? That's significant traffic share even if it's split between several second tier search engines. How many of them are powered by Google/Yahoo?

As much as I like duckduckgo it's not even on the map. Even Altavista is larger than duckduckgo and they're at 0.14% or so. http://siteanalytics.compete.com/altavista.com+duckduckgo.co... So if that holds true on the percentage then duckduckgo is at about 0.035%. Which is really not bad at all. Small fry: search.com 2.7%, ask.com 1%, < 1%: naver.com , aol , baidu , yandex , altavista

Heh, I thought I could find a niche search engine I could advertise on that isn't saturated with competitors but it looks like I'll have to wait for ddg to start accepting ads. Search.com: google Ask.com: google Aol: google altavista: yahoo

naiver, baidu, yandex are local search engines.

It's amazing how much the search market in the US has consolidated. You would think with the declining cost of computing power someone out there would be building their own index.

It's also interesting that cuil doesn't appear in your stats at all.

Free startup idea: Build a niche search engine covering a curated list of sites(like google custom search but with value adds like ddg). Sort of like what blog search engines are doing, but in another area.

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As much as I like duckduckgo it's not even on the map. Even Altavista is larger than duckduckgo and they're at 0.14% or so. http://siteanalytics.compete.com/altavista.com+duckduckgo.co... So if that holds true on the percentage then duckduckgo is at about 0.035%. Which is really not bad at all. Small fry: search.com 2.7%, ask.com 1%, < 1%: naver.com , aol , baidu , yandex , altavista

Heh, I thought I could find a niche search engine I could advertise on that isn't saturated with competitors but it looks like I'll have to wait for ddg to start accepting ads. Search.com: google Ask.com: google Aol: google altavista: yahoo naiver, baidu, yandex are local search engines. It's amazing how much the search market in the US has consolidated. You would think with the declining cost of computing power some…

For ddg to be of any use to you though, you'd have to have sufficient searches in your keywords of interest that it would be worth their while to take your money.

Or you'd have to go overbroad.

Cuil is dead, they've tried to re-invent themselves in april as an encyclopedia, I think they must have missed the memo about WikiPedia's continued success.

Their search results suck too...

Duckduckgo.com is larger than cuil!

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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post #24
post #16

I'm having a hard time understanding the significance of this news given the Bing / Yahoo.com partnership (Bing started powering Yahoo.com search in late August). Going forward Bing's success will be measured in terms of its performance vis-a-vis Google, so what's the relevance that it overtook Yahoo in market share?

Most users aren't aware that Yahoo is powered by Bing, so the fact that Bing overtook Yahoo in search shows that Bing has gained (or Yahoo has lost) significant ground. This isn't searches powered by Bing, but searches actually on Bing.com.

But still, why is it relevant or meaningful to compare the market share of Bing.com vs Yahoo.com since the two are now in a formal partnership going forward? Isn't the central issue: Bing + Yahoo vs Google?

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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These numbers seem off to me. Does anyone here actually run a site where Google is only 65% of your incoming search traffic? Looking at traffic for a few of my own sites (mostly tech related, admittedly), Google is consistently in the 92-96% range.

Last 30 days:

Google: 90.7% Yahoo: 4.8% Bing: 3.0%

Same 30 days, one year ago:

Google: 91.96% Yahoo: 5.18% Bing: 1.8%

Re: Bing Overtakes Yahoo as the #2 U.S. Search Engine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, I thought I could find a niche search engine I could advertise on that isn't saturated with competitors but it looks like I'll have to wait for ddg to start accepting ads. Search.com: google Ask.com: google Aol: google altavista: yahoo naiver, baidu, yandex are local search engines. It's amazing how much the search market in the US has consolidated. You would think with the declining cost of computing power some…

For ddg to be of any use to you though, you'd have to have sufficient searches in your keywords of interest that it would be worth their while to take your money. Or you'd have to go overbroad. Cuil is dead, they've tried to re-invent themselves in april as an encyclopedia, I think they must have missed the memo about WikiPedia's continued success. Their search results suck too... Duckduckgo.com is larger than cuil!

Nope...as long as 1. There is little competition, no quality score, and low click prices and 2. Traffic remains high quality and there is solid fraud detection I could probably monetize a good percentage of searches on ddg with affiliate offers, I wouldn't even need to arbitrage to higher paying ads like AdSense.

If the price is right, almost any search can be monetized.

This is how 2nd tier engines like 7search make money, except they have too much low-quality international and bot traffic to give steady conversions.

ddg could easily monetize and attract lots of advertisers if they published their exact search data, keywords and counts. Wordtracker is making a mint, millions and millions of dollars simply publishing dogpile.com search data, which has a tiny (1%) share of the search market. SEMRush is scraping Google for search data and has over 70,000 customers.

Nobody else currently does this. Privacy concerns aside, if there were a search engine that had a good keyword tool designed for advertisers, it would attract ad money in droves.

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