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Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by Udik » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 5:25 PM UTC

49bc wrote: post #11

Udik wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just came here to say that it's time to start a gossip magazine about completely imaginary people. You beat me to it. However I disagree about text generation, which seems to me to require a perfect equivalent of human intelligence to be at least acceptable. (I'd call it AGI-complete, or maybe HI-complete).

Gossip about people you’ve never heard of or seen completely defeats the allure of gossip doesn’t it?

Of course I meant it as a joke. But I think the problem- or at least the point of the joke- isn't much in the fact that you haven't seen these people before. The point is rather that "gossip" is a sparse amount of information about some reality you don't have direct access to, but that exists and is consistent. So with normal gossips, it makes sense for the brain to gather all this info and try to infer a picture of the person behind it. However, if there is no real person behind the gossip the entire exercise is perfectly illusory.

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by lainga » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 5:32 PM UTC

From the demonstration video [0] in the link, very interesting, but also very noticeable where the GAN attempts glasses or other "items" (see around 0:58 and 2:35, respectively). Has any research been done into GANs which aim for realistic artificial objects, instead of faces?

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G06dEcZ-QTg&feature=youtu.be

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by nine_k » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 5:43 PM UTC

49bc wrote: post #11

Udik wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just came here to say that it's time to start a gossip magazine about completely imaginary people. You beat me to it. However I disagree about text generation, which seems to me to require a perfect equivalent of human intelligence to be at least acceptable. (I'd call it AGI-complete, or maybe HI-complete).

Gossip about people you’ve never heard of or seen completely defeats the allure of gossip doesn’t it?

I think these people being "real" is a secondary concern. Most readers of gossip magazines only see the characters from them only in the same magazines, or TV. Soap opears about completely imaginary characters faced a lot of success. I don't see why algorithmically generated soap operas won't have a chance, especially when adorned with "photos".

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by SteveJS » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:04 PM UTC

lainga wrote: post #22

From the demonstration video [0] in the link, very interesting, but also very noticeable where the GAN attempts glasses or other "items" (see around 0:58 and 2:35, respectively). Has any research been done into GANs which aim for realistic artificial objects, instead of faces? [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G06dEcZ-QTg&feature=youtu.be

Later in the video it shows training against the LSUN dataset.

https://github.com/fyu/lsun

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by igravious » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:40 PM UTC

"We recommend NVIDIA DGX-1 with 8 Tesla V100 GPUs."

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/dgx-1/#order-now-dg...

The NVIDIA DGX is available for purchase in select countries and is priced at:

    DGX with P100 at $129,000*
    DGX with V100 at $149,000*
    DGX support plan is required and must be purchased separately.

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by nickcw » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:57 PM UTC

It is interesting really studying the two images on the github page. My first thought was - wow, amazing! But having looked at them for a bit longer they've fallen straight into the uncanny valley for me.

The female's left and right eyes are different shapes, as are her eyebrows. And the male's ears appear to be in different places on the left and right side of his head. His eyes are creepily different too.

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by osteele » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 6:59 PM UTC

igravious wrote: post #25

"We recommend NVIDIA DGX-1 with 8 Tesla V100 GPUs." https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/dgx-1/#order-now-dg... The NVIDIA DGX is available for purchase in select countries and is priced at: DGX with P100 at $129,000* DGX with V100 at $149,000* DGX support plan is required and must be purchased separately.

For most of us, it's cheaper to rent, for example, an AWS p3.2xlarge @ $3.06/hr on-demand or $2/hr 1-year reserved.

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by stochastic_monk » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 7:14 PM UTC

nickcw wrote: post #26

It is interesting really studying the two images on the github page. My first thought was - wow, amazing! But having looked at them for a bit longer they've fallen straight into the uncanny valley for me. The female's left and right eyes are different shapes, as are her eyebrows. And the male's ears appear to be in different places on the left and right side of his head. His eyes are creepily different too.

Well, my ears are on different places, too, which is why glasses were always a bad fit before I got PRK. I’d say that the shape of the woman’s hair feels weird, but I’m not really offput by the image of the man.

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by riku_iki » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 8:31 PM UTC

osteele wrote: post #27

igravious wrote: post #25

"We recommend NVIDIA DGX-1 with 8 Tesla V100 GPUs." https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/data-center/dgx-1/#order-now-dg... The NVIDIA DGX is available for purchase in select countries and is priced at: DGX with P100 at $129,000* DGX with V100 at $149,000* DGX support plan is required and must be purchased separately.

For most of us, it's cheaper to rent, for example, an AWS p3.2xlarge @ $3.06/hr on-demand or $2/hr 1-year reserved.

> an AWS p3.2xlarge @ $3.06/hr on-demand or $2/hr 1-year reserved.

Equivalent to DGX is p3.16xlarge - $16/hr 1-year reserved = 280k/yr for renting.

Re: AI generation of fake celeb images

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Post by squarefoot » Sun, Apr 22, 2018, 9:01 PM UTC

49bc wrote: post #11

Udik wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just came here to say that it's time to start a gossip magazine about completely imaginary people. You beat me to it. However I disagree about text generation, which seems to me to require a perfect equivalent of human intelligence to be at least acceptable. (I'd call it AGI-complete, or maybe HI-complete).

Gossip about people you’ve never heard of or seen completely defeats the allure of gossip doesn’t it?

Repeat a lie enough and it becomes the truth; they just have to make those fake celebs appear in TV now and then to turn them into cash cows. I'm 100% sure in due time we'll see Elvis singing stuff that Elvis has never sung in his life; producing fake celebs would be not that different: much less initial profits but also much less royalties to pay.