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Re: Child's play

#21
Salesforce is a big time offender here.

Trailhead Conference was absolutely pedantic not only did you have the booth babes with the cheap Chinese promo objects. They turn the Moscone center into a goddamned forest, we're talking theme park level decor complete with furries.

I found it cult-like and infantile. Seemed like people were eating it up, not really ever going back.

-Grumpy 30 y/o dev

Re: Child's play

#22
> "I hate being called 'IT'"

Oh man I hate this. An "IT" job to me just means an admin job where the subject of the admin tasks happens to be computers.

It's worse when "IT workers" try to lump actual technically-skilled roles in with them, like it's just another task to be performed.

Re: Child's play

#24
Trade shows or any place where you're basically a sales prospect are all about infantilizing you as much as possible. An adult thinks long-term, is independent, makes/does things using skill, doesn't need pampering... and a host of other characteristics that are inconvenient to the sales process.

Re: Child's play

#25

to be honest I find it hard to take writing that uses "females" as a synonym for "women" super seriously

You know what I can't stand? People broadly dismissing something because of ONE word they don't agree with. Grow up.

Re: Child's play

#26

I'm far removed from this particular scene, but doesn't anyone else get the sense that we as a world culture are starting to get a better grip on the concept of taking care of one another? Surely "infantilization" is one possible awkward misstep in such a process, but the signs mentioned don't point only toward immaturity. They also point toward fun, work-life balance, and broader availability of gentle workplace tra…

There's nothing funnier than watching a new manager who's good with clients try to onboard somebody.

I wish there were firmer guidelines and pay structure around the title, "practice lead", that it came with the same face time with the C-Suite, and non-billable hours to actually do the job of onboarding and workplace training as managers get.

Re: Child's play

#27
post #12

> If you've ever been placed in a job by a contracting firm, you know this routine. Oftentimes, the agent will meet you at the employer's office, and walk you in. This is a thing? Never seen this!

This is a W2 "contractor" aka disguised employment with shit rates for the contractor.

Id expect 2.5 to 3x my FTE rate in the UK where in the USA people seem surprised that people dare it ask for even 20% more.

Re: Child's play

#28
Infantilization seems to be a wholly inaccurate description of the behavior; "pandering" or "courting" is much more accurate.

TBH, if folks are having fun, and companies want to join in, I see nothing wrong with it. Devs are likely aware that the companies don't normally wear super hero costumes, and companies are probably aware that making a good first impression is only the first part of a successful relationship.

The blog post seems to have a pretty toxic view of employers (there are a bunch of assumed "to be explored" paragraphs), and I think that view is poisoning the entire experience.

Re: Child's play

#29
post #12

> If you've ever been placed in a job by a contracting firm, you know this routine. Oftentimes, the agent will meet you at the employer's office, and walk you in. This is a thing? Never seen this!

Same here. I am working in a contracting firm (not in the US), and I'm just told the address and name of the person I should ask for in the client company.

Re: Child's play

#30

to be honest I find it hard to take writing that uses "females" as a synonym for "women" super seriously

In current culture, especially SV, not all women are female. It is necessary to specify female if one is actually referring to biological sex instead of cultural gender. Some find this an annoying distinction but it is the cultural norm in an increasingly growing number of places.

But the story obviously wasn't referring to biological sex, but rather to the gender presented by the booth-worker. So "female" was also the incorrect term, besides being off-putting.
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