Google already does this anytime I clear my cookies.
Why would they allow someone using the service if they didn't get something back?
Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
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Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can already see it on many sites. They're basically just a more forceful version of cookie notifications with language about third party tracking thrown in that force you to say "OK" or tell you to leave. Here's an example: http://prntscr.com/j67usw FB, as with all third party trackers, isn't the one actually responsible for notifying you about the use of their pixels etc. on third party sites. The site operator…
That popup contains false statement though. How does personalizing ads make the site easier to use?
They could argue that keeping you logged in with cookies makes it easier for you to use.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#23Google already does this anytime I clear my cookies. Why would they allow someone using the service if they didn't get something back?
Why would they allow someone using the service if they didn't get something back?
That's a good question, but once GDPR is in effect, the law is going to require that all consent is genuine, informed, active consent. A consequence of that is that someone must be able to withhold their consent without suffering for it, unless the thing they're consenting to is essential to whatever else they're doing.
If you're thinking this fundamentally undermines the current business model of sites like Facebook, you're probably right, and given the political rhetoric around the GDPR, it's possible that this was the intention of the EU from the start.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why can't we simply choose relevant ad categories that we would prefer to see? Why do the options need to be (i) see random advertisements that are likely irrelevant, or (ii) allow us to track your every move, including your location, each site you visit with the Facebook widget, your message and call history, and your every click. Or non-Facebook related, why can't my smart TV just let me choose PC Gaming, Technolog…
Why can't ads be relevant to the content of the page like they used to be in the good old days? As an example of stupid targeted ads: I bought a Casper mattress a couple of months ago and pretty much every single ad I've seen since then (on devices where I don't have them blocked) has been for mattresses. How many mattresses does the internet think I need? If I'm reading about something on the internet it's generally…
My guess, some people buy a mattress and end up unhappy with it, return it, and buy something else. This is enough people that it's worth showing mattress ads to all recent mattress buyers.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#25Considering that Facebook makes its revenue from ads and that providing relevant ads needs data and tracking, this move is not so bad. Users that don’t accept the terms or use various tech to block this, would receive misappropriated ads. Bad ads make companies lose revenue while annoying the users with extremely irrelevant info. This method should be extremely effective in removing false positives. Personal observat…
With ublock origin and a hosts file, I can't remember the last time I saw an ad.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#26I just added the "Facebook Container" extension to my Firefox browser. I am hoping it will prevent most of Facebook's tracking, but I do know that it probably won't block all the tracking.
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Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#27My adblocker detects approximately 44 trackers on that page, including one from connect.facebook.net.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#28Considering that Facebook makes its revenue from ads and that providing relevant ads needs data and tracking, this move is not so bad. Users that don’t accept the terms or use various tech to block this, would receive misappropriated ads. Bad ads make companies lose revenue while annoying the users with extremely irrelevant info. This method should be extremely effective in removing false positives. Personal observat…
uBlock Origin makes the ads go away pretty well. I'm also open to paying.
Does uBlock Origin actually have any effect on ads or sponsored posts in Facebook?
I run ABP and there are still ads all over the place in Facebook. I've taken to reporting every ad I see in my Timeline as spam.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#29This does not discuss whether nonusers will be asked to opt-in. Curious how GDPR will change tracking people w/out FB accounts.
You can already see it on many sites. They're basically just a more forceful version of cookie notifications with language about third party tracking thrown in that force you to say "OK" or tell you to leave. Here's an example: http://prntscr.com/j67usw FB, as with all third party trackers, isn't the one actually responsible for notifying you about the use of their pixels etc. on third party sites. The site operator…
This might not be a great long term strategy, I'm expecting one or two buzzfeed-like websites to be put up against the wall and shot over this. I've always dealt with the cookie notifications by using ublock to simply block that element, I never click "ok". I've never had a website actually stop me from using it when I do this until google changed their search page a few weeks ago.
If you're running a website with one of these, I strongly suggest you make sure you record whether people accept and actually boot them off the site of they don't. GDPR article 7 section one requires a website to be able to demonstrate that I have given consent, and recital 32 requires that that consent be specific and unambiguous. It's doubtful that "by continuing to use this site you agree..." statements will be satisfactory, especially if you start the tracking the instant they hit the page, before they can click that ok button.
Re: Facebook to ask everyone to accept being tracked so they can keep using it
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That popup contains false statement though. How does personalizing ads make the site easier to use?
They could argue that keeping you logged in with cookies makes it easier for you to use.
that part is true, the part about ads isn't. Also AFAIK GDPR doesn't let the companies to glue all possible data processing purposes into one consent and indefinitely - there should be a clear message also on the timeline of data processing, what data is collected (not just cookies) and informing that I can withdraw my consent at any time.