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Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
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Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
A few million people died under that misappropriated symbol though. It sucks you can't use it for its intended message anymore, but most peoples' sympathies lie elsewhere.
Hitler was also against smoking. His message resonated with people and caused them to kill. Maybe if he wasn't against smoking people wouldn't have followed him
Would you smoke as a protest?
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#23Is there anything sadder or creepier than an hourglass with a swastika on it? What a horrible time for humanity.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
> Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist.
You, and your fellow Buddhists, need to realize that Hitler had a far more profound impact on Western civilization (unfortunately) than did the Buddha, and that Westerners who recognize the swastika as a symbol of hate do so because for half the world, and most of a century, it has been a symbol of hate.
Those Westerners are not misinformed, or ignorant, or incorrect in doing so, they're interpreting a symbol in the context with which it was introduced to Western culture. You can tell people that it's a misappropriated symbol of peace, but no one in the West is likely ever going to look at a Nazi swastika and see a manji first, even knowing that, any more than Buddhists likely see a manji and think first about Hitler.
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
Sorry, but to the western world it is a symbol of genocide and a dark time in history, it will never be reclaimed. No one cares about the previous history of the symbol, it is forever tarnished.
That’s quite an arrogant statement. You may not care, but as one among a billion Hindus, we certainly do.
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#25Oh wow whaaat? Argentina? But why, it's not like the nazis excaped to there after shit hit the fan...
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#26Is there anything sadder or creepier than an hourglass with a swastika on it? What a horrible time for humanity.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
1) swastikas usually rotate the opposite direction when used in a buddhist temple, at least in the west, I’ve noticed. Certainly it is useful for differentiating from the most antisemitic symbol of all time.
2) I’m not sure it’s so sad when buddhist is less of an expressive culture and more of internal reflection. That is, I don’t see peoples’ religious beliefs trampled by trying to be respectful to those who do view it as a nazi symbol.
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
Aren't Buddhists supposed to advocate non attachment? Why not just let your attachment to that symbol go, and create a new and better one that symbolizes your values? I want to end hate. And I end my comments with this. }=^={
Thats one way to rationalize your world view on another person. 'Just get over it lol, isnt that, like, your thing?'
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
As a Hindu, this saddens me as well. Even though I’m not religious, it was a symbol of prosperity. I sometimes wonder how centuries of history can be appropriated and misrepresented by one bad actor.
Also the toothbrush mustache was sexy before WW2.
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
A few million people died under that misappropriated symbol though. It sucks you can't use it for its intended message anymore, but most peoples' sympathies lie elsewhere.
Should we also abandon cross? So many people died during the Crusades
Re: Large collection of Nazi artifacts discovered in Argentina (2017)
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. The sadder thing is people not knowing swastika's history and that it is auspicious for almost 2 billion people including me a, a Buddhist. The sadder thing is people falling over each other to acknowledge it as a hate symbol rather than trying to reclaim it. How about those of is who actually want to end hate end our comments with this 卐?
What a bullshit excuse to post a swastika on HN, and an attempt to rehabilitate and normalize the symbols of Nazism. The haters always find a way around the rules. The problem with Nazism obviously isn't the loss of this symbol; that's not what needs addressing. If you read the strategies of the White Christian supremacists, they say not to make statements that others find outrageous but to gently push the envelope a…
> What a bullshit excuse to post a swastika on HN. The haters always find a way around the rules. The problem with Nazism obviously isn't the symbol
Of course the problem isn't the symbol. It's people like you. On one hand you claim that I used an excuse to do something very wrong- post the symbol. And call me a hater. On the other hand you say the problem isn't the symbol.