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Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Post by keo292 »

Rotdhizon wrote: post #6

While what this lady did was atrocious, it does highlight a big problem inside Youtube. That their completely biased, unfair demonetization system is costing people enough money in ad revenue to ruin online careers. Smaller channels and politically incorrect channels get flagged pretty much every video, while bigger, white listed channels that post clear ToS breaking content are still allowed to rake in ad money. Thi…

Bold talk from anonymous coward

Unless you’ve cured cancer or unlocked new physics, odds are you’re just peddling skills millions of others have and are not contributing anything terribly unique.

Just looking to get the right people on your side to scrape together a living in a different context

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Post by lainga »

keo292 wrote: post #21
Rotdhizon wrote: post #6

While what this lady did was atrocious, it does highlight a big problem inside Youtube. That their completely biased, unfair demonetization system is costing people enough money in ad revenue to ruin online careers. Smaller channels and politically incorrect channels get flagged pretty much every video, while bigger, white listed channels that post clear ToS breaking content are still allowed to rake in ad money. Thi…

Bold talk from anonymous coward Unless you’ve cured cancer or unlocked new physics, odds are you’re just peddling skills millions of others have and are not contributing anything terribly unique. Just looking to get the right people on your side to scrape together a living in a different context

What does 'anonymous coward' mean in this case? We aren't on El Reg.

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Post by s73v3r_ »

Rotdhizon wrote: post #6

While what this lady did was atrocious, it does highlight a big problem inside Youtube. That their completely biased, unfair demonetization system is costing people enough money in ad revenue to ruin online careers. Smaller channels and politically incorrect channels get flagged pretty much every video, while bigger, white listed channels that post clear ToS breaking content are still allowed to rake in ad money. Thi…

"Youtube has become nothing more than a money making opportunity that is getting flooded with people who would rather deceive people than get a real job."

Would you say the same for anyone who works in video production? How about someone who was making TV shows?

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Post by [deleted] »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #9
zaidf wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers do get to decide but advertisers don't want to have to decide between 10 million channels. They wanted a curated list with some minimum quality control to decide from.

So make it optional. Call it family-friendly, make it default, whatever.

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Post by Slansitartop »

JarlUlvi wrote: post #3

Beyond the censorship issues & lawsuits, Google regularly gets a pass when their crummy policies negatively impact people. While it is horrible that some were hurt in the process, I wonder if this will make Google start approaching their huge amounts of power with some civility.

> Beyond the censorship issues & lawsuits, Google regularly gets a pass when their crummy policies negatively impact people. While it is horrible that some were hurt in the process, I wonder if this will make Google start approaching their huge amounts of power with some civility.

Probably not. Whenever there's a shooting, there seems to be a strong pressure to disregard the idea of addressing the shooter's motives. If anything, I expect Youtube's demonetization policies to attract more sympathy and support, since they were victimized on account of them.

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Post by snarkyturtle »

pnutjam wrote: post #2

Yet another licensed and legal weapon.

Luckily it was just a handgun. If it were an AR-15 it might've been a different story, as this radiologist who treated Parkland students noticed: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/what-i-...

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Post by frockington »

nielsbot wrote: post #14
mieseratte wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet another mentally ill individual who did not get the treatment they so clearly needed.

Why not both?

With everyone hyper-polarizing anything with guns and/or mental health its hard to remember this is an option

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Post by noobermin »

JarlUlvi wrote: post #3

Beyond the censorship issues & lawsuits, Google regularly gets a pass when their crummy policies negatively impact people. While it is horrible that some were hurt in the process, I wonder if this will make Google start approaching their huge amounts of power with some civility.

While this was flagged to hell, probably due to insensitivity, this will become a point of discussion going forward.

In the aftermath of the terrorist attack in Paris, follow up articles appeared on HN discussing the situation of poor communities on the outskirts of Paris. Although being sensitive is important and just plain human courtesy, and we should be civil, it is important for discourse to discuss the situations and circumstance surrounding such incidents.

Incidentally, today is MLK's death anniversary. After race riots in the 60's, he famously condemned them, but then said in his "The Other America" speech:

>But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard.

We need to have the intellectual courage to tolerate this discussion about the situations surrounding it. While one shouldn't martyrize the shooter here, we need to be aware of the circumstances that precipitated it.

EDIT: thanks for the vital correction!

Re: Police say shooter’s anger over YouTube policies ‘appears to be the motive’

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Post by mozumder »

jonny_eh wrote: post #15
bufferoverflow wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So make it optional. Call it family-friendly, make it default, whatever.

Same result. People will get pissed off when they get categorized in a way they don't like, resulting in less money.

What YouTube needs are editors. Editors get to tell people that their content is garbage or great.

The problem with social media is that they don't have people telling the public that their ideas are crap, so everyone thinks they're important.

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