Microsoft calls for dismissal of U.S. Supreme Court privacy fight

Post by headhunter » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 9:52 AM UTC

buvanshak wrote: post #8

cmurf wrote: post #5

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It's a combination of corporate money in politics, and a nation of spectators, not citizens. The citizens have yielded their participation and power to corporations, on purpose, and many are proud that they've done this, if they care at all. It's only hindsight being 20/20 that they go, oh fuck that was a bad idea, how did we get here? Complacency. No one said democracy was easy. It requires constant vigilance. And p…

> the small problem is they're not benevolent for very long. Would it be possible to appoint a dictator, who has no other incentive other then serve the people. For ex, they ll sever every human relation, cannot own property, will have zero privacy, cannot reproduce and have children etc. But they ll be held to the highest honor and their every needs taken care of... In short, something like the life of a religious s…

Post by buvanshak » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 10:43 AM UTC

mtreis86 wrote: post #22

buvanshak wrote: post #18

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>A sovereign who is completely selfless would not be a human. All human beings have survival instincts. But we manages to build soldiers that are willing to risk their lives for random stuff. Right? In such way, it might be possible to build, or grow, generations of such people, completely selfless..

Random stuff isn't what soldiers risk their lives for. Many see their community as an extension of their family. Others are idealistic. Some didn't realize the risk. It isn't random though.

Post by jstanley » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 11:42 AM UTC

justinclift wrote: post #24

Fairly unfortunate (mind understatement). Especially for the US Corp which literally added mandatory uploading and sharing of random end user docs to Win 10. Hopefully this starts the ball rolling on Windows being completely unacceptable for use by all non-US goverments and business. Giving your docs to an unfriendly foreign state isn't cool. ;)

Post by indigochill » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 12:11 PM UTC

headhunter wrote: post #21

buvanshak wrote: post #8

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> the small problem is they're not benevolent for very long. Would it be possible to appoint a dictator, who has no other incentive other then serve the people. For ex, they ll sever every human relation, cannot own property, will have zero privacy, cannot reproduce and have children etc. But they ll be held to the highest honor and their every needs taken care of... In short, something like the life of a religious s…

You've described an AI politician. Doesn't sound so bad now, huh? Will you turn over your leadership to the machines? Humans are so bad at it.

Post by tsmarsh » Wed, Apr 04, 2018, 12:30 PM UTC

tdhoot wrote: post #9

craigc wrote: post #4

It is really sad and disturbing to me how little coverage the CLOUD act has gotten. A law was passed quietly that was snuck into page 2,201 of an unrelated spending/budget bill just before Congress voted on it to allow warrantless surveillance by foreign governments and law enforcement on any US citizen, and not one mainstream media source has written about it. It was signed into law by Trump just a couple days later…

> warrantless surveillance by foreign governments and law enforcement on any US citizen Source? I only see that it allows foreign governments to get information on their own citizens, even if that information is stored on US soil.