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other labels are mutable too though. That's why this broke for other tags beside latest. Use the hash instead for a hard link, but obviously won't get any security updates.
Security updates should be vetted and not auto-accepted. There's no problem here.
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Re: Node Docker image broken
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Latest should only be used for hackery / development, but please fix it to a stable version before release. Overwriting tags should honestly not be possible, ever. Node / NPM did that (I think) with one of their versions too. Or was it a npm package?
> Overwriting tags should honestly not be possible, ever. How do you propose to withdraw a release if it’s broken/contains secret keys/etc.? Delete the image itself and leave the tag dangling?
But they mean: images can be removed, but you should not be able to publish 2 different images with the same tag. Then you never know which version of those two you got.
Re: Node Docker image broken
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> Overwriting tags should honestly not be possible, ever. How do you propose to withdraw a release if it’s broken/contains secret keys/etc.? Delete the image itself and leave the tag dangling?
If secrets are published, there is no way to ‘unpublish’ them. Consider them burned. But they mean: images can be removed, but you should not be able to publish 2 different images with the same tag. Then you never know which version of those two you got.
Also, consider “secrets” in the “Personally Identifiable Information” sense, or the “confidential information shared to you by a third party” sense. If these are published, someone might see them; but the longer they stay published, the more people might see them, so you have an obligation to remove them.
Also, re: reusing a tag, what about having already announced a release version number, and tagging the release with it, only to find out the release is broken? It’s kind of problematic to have to bump the version again when the previous version didn’t even go out to anyone.
I would propose a slightly more relaxed rule: you shouldn’t be able to erase/overwrite a tag once there exist other tags in the repo with creation or signing timestamps newer than those of the targeted tag. So you can overwrite something you just created, but not something that’s “history.”
(An alternative to this would be if tags had nicknames or “object versions”, like in an S3 bucket. If you could have a v1.0.0 “tag” that first pointed to a static v1.0.0+1 ref, and then to a v1.0.0+2 ref, where clients don’t see the static ref tags but can still check them out using some special syntax in combination with the visible tag—and where you can revoke a static ref, but not overwrite it—that’d probably make everyone happy.)
Re: Node Docker image broken
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That's not what the OP is trying to say, though they have a hard time coming out and saying it, and their reply to you doesn't help matters. Instead, what they are saying is that you should 1) use a specific version, and 2) host that version in a location you control. This way, updates don't impact your build just because you clamp to the latest (which is a moving target). Also, if they happen to rerelease a tag whic…
> host that version in a location you control I don’t see how this is implied or required by what the GP said. Lockfiles exist; docker-image and OS package hash-refs exist. Heck, nix exists. Getting what you expected to get is a solved problem, and does not require “host[ing] it yourself.” Now, availability of your deployment might require hosting it yourself. (Though more often your availability figures will be far…
I think availability is exactly what dozzie was getting at by specifying 'production'.
You want your production systems to be robust, not reliable at the whims of half a dozen different ecosystems all with different policies, procedures, humans, support agreements, etc. (This is without even touching on infrastructure availability.)
Re: Node Docker image broken
#25This is one of the reasons I never use the latest version of any docker image, so I don’t repeat my constant struggles with npm packages breaking on minor version changes Edit: I see they were overwriting current tags.... well that’s even worse
Latest should only be used for hackery / development, but please fix it to a stable version before release. Overwriting tags should honestly not be possible, ever. Node / NPM did that (I think) with one of their versions too. Or was it a npm package?