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Re: Blue Vision, which builds collaborative AR, leave stealth with $14.5M led by GV

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post #10

Just looking around me now and imagining everything I see having an augmented reality overlay it seems exhausting. I guess the giant blue arrows will help me focus.

I can't imagine AR being accepted without some end-user control over how content is displayed. I'd accept an AR overlay -- maybe -- if I could render every feature on my end in black-and-white serif font. Almost as if the world was a giant Medium article.

Re: Blue Vision, which builds collaborative AR, leave stealth with $14.5M led by GV

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

pretty much that. They have gone round and taken a video of every street in a certain area, unpacked it, extracted salient points, reconstruct those points to get a 3d map. From that, given any 2d image you should be able to extract a bunch of "salient points" or known points, which from their relationship to each other can tell where the camera is, and what direction its pointing. The two hard parts are 1) collectin…

you can see it here in their demo https://youtu.be/tXwVg2S9wuY?t=60 the "salient points" are called keypoints and their feature vectors are called descriptors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale-invariant_feature_transf... you are correct that the challenge is collecting and indexing/retrieving but there have been techniques that do this for a while https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~michjc/papers/p144-park.pdf (they even t…

> the real thing that i'm puzzled by with blue vision is how they're registering against ARKit descriptors (if they are at all) since apple doesn't expose them in the ARKit api (only the point cloud itself). ARCore used to expose them (https://stackoverflow.com/a/29012790) but i don't think it does anymore. they must be doing the registration because they only support devices that are running ARKit/ARCore (and without it they would just have built a SLAM system - albeit backed by an "arcloud" - that sits beside ARKit/ARCore and would most likely be inferior).

I have had a look at their API documentation, and what they do is they provide you with an anchor, and that's where you attach your SCNode-s. They use the built-in ORB-SLAM to position your SCNodes, but these are all relative to the main anchor, hence achieving stability and persistence.

Re: Blue Vision, which builds collaborative AR, leave stealth with $14.5M led by GV

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

you can see it here in their demo https://youtu.be/tXwVg2S9wuY?t=60 the "salient points" are called keypoints and their feature vectors are called descriptors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scale-invariant_feature_transf... you are correct that the challenge is collecting and indexing/retrieving but there have been techniques that do this for a while https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~michjc/papers/p144-park.pdf (they even t…

> the real thing that i'm puzzled by with blue vision is how they're registering against ARKit descriptors (if they are at all) since apple doesn't expose them in the ARKit api (only the point cloud itself). ARCore used to expose them ( https://stackoverflow.com/a/29012790 ) but i don't think it does anymore. they must be doing the registration because they only support devices that are running ARKit/ARCore (and with…

yea that's clever. that way you don't have to track just identify. still leverage arkit/arcore to do the tracking.

Re: Blue Vision, which builds collaborative AR, leave stealth with $14.5M led by GV

#25
I can't wait for the integration with HMDs!

It'll be so useful to see contextual advertising near all of my favorite shops with the great deals that I love -- all without having to clip coupons! It'll be great when this is paired with facial recognition, so that I can see just the ads that I need for my personal situation at that moment. Maybe they'll even give me a better deal since I'm such a frequent customer!

Two thumbs up!

Re: Blue Vision, which builds collaborative AR, leave stealth with $14.5M led by GV

#27
They must be seeing something I don’t, if you pardon my pun. I don’t see “AR collaboration” as even remotely viable outside of a few very specific niches, and will remain skeptical of this whole AR thing until I see a demo. The only spaces I’m aware of where AR/VR collaboration is currently viable all deal with the physical world to one extent or another: real estate sales, furniture sales, construction, that sort of thing. I could get behind “Kingsman” style teleconferencing if it works spectacularly well. Other than that, I’m drawing a blank.

Re: Blue Vision, which builds collaborative AR, leave stealth with $14.5M led by GV

#29

The SDK will initially be free to use Now there's a way to get people to use it "initially" /s

how else exactly do you think they'll make money. or do you think they should be giving this away for free?

Sell people's tracking data like most "free" software
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