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Prepared for Bumps, the Met Starts Charging Non-New Yorkers

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There is a lot to be said about seeing great art in a less crowded context. One of the best days of my life was when I went to Member Only Hours at MoMA, and I walked alone, in silence. I live near the Met, and too many tour buses show up, discharge huge groups of people who hustle and shove from one famous piece to the other - ignoring the art that isn't in text books. It's not a checklist, it's a really incredible…

My first time at the Louvre, I was enjoying a relatively quiet stroll through the less crowded galleries after enjoying a thoroughly european vacation for about a week. It was only when I happened into a very busy gallery with a quickly moving throng of people. My reverie was shattered when I heard over my shoulder in a thick southern US drawl "Man, lets just go see the Mona Lisa and get the f* outta here." It was really the least impactful portion of our visit because of the throngs of people.

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25 bucks is pretty rich for just kicking around in a museum for a little while. Understand they need more funding but think they would do better with a lower price that doesn't result in turn aways (or never shows). And certainly taking a $20 out of your wallet just hurts less psychologically than having to fish out another bill as well.

"The Met" isn't just any old museum, it's a main reason to visit new york. I'd pay $100 for an entire day there (or three days, as it is now!). You simply can't see that quality of museum in many parts of the country, let alone the world.

"The Met" isn't just any old museum

This is true. We take it for granted but the Met is one of the world's great museums.

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The "voluntary" admission never felt all that voluntary to me. Sure. You could say no when you got to the cashier. But it always felt to me at least that there was a strong vibe of you really ought to pay this amount unless you really can't afford to. It's certainly a different character from the museums in London, for example, that just have their big donation buckets. With the Met, this actually more honest than it…

That sort of is the point though. People shouldn't feel great about being cheapskates.

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25 bucks is pretty rich for just kicking around in a museum for a little while. Understand they need more funding but think they would do better with a lower price that doesn't result in turn aways (or never shows). And certainly taking a $20 out of your wallet just hurts less psychologically than having to fish out another bill as well.

"The Met" isn't just any old museum, it's a main reason to visit new york. I'd pay $100 for an entire day there (or three days, as it is now!). You simply can't see that quality of museum in many parts of the country, let alone the world.

As someone who lived in NY and went in the late 90s, I paid 5$ for the last couple hours of the day. The person I was with paid a quarter...which I thought was too little.

This forced admission is for out-of-towners, but I feel like its a tragedy of the commons that forced their hand.

I feel like I can only absorb so much art in a day before I have to stop....

edit: Someone noted the admission covers 3 days.

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No problem with this, but then art donations to the museum should not be federally tax deductible. Donations should be tax deductible only if they benefit the entire tax base — if the Met only offers free admission to New Yorkers, billionaires should only be able to deduct their New York taxes when they donate Michelangelos.

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No problem with this, but then art donations to the museum should not be federally tax deductible. Donations should be tax deductible only if they benefit the entire tax base — if the Met only offers free admission to New Yorkers, billionaires should only be able to deduct their New York taxes when they donate Michelangelos.

There is absolutely no requirement that tax exempt organizations can't charge admission fees, membership fees, etc.

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I don't have a problem with the general concept. Tourists spend a lot of money coming to visit NYC in no small part because of attractions like the Met. Why should the airlines, hotels, restaurants, bars and so on get some of that but not the actual attraction itself? That said, as I understand significant mismanagement and scope creep have lead to the financial shortfall that inspired this pricing change. I worry th…

The Met was build on a city property/building, and since the 1870 its mission has been to provide art and culture free of charge.

Should the Met charge us residents but out of state visitors? eg. people that just live across Hudson (NJ)? How about, lets say the visiting parents of somebody that lives in NYC? How about people that lived here and moved away at some point.

On the other hand, the Met has no alliance for the random foreign tourists that come and visit, so charging them is an easy case.

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There is a lot to be said about seeing great art in a less crowded context. One of the best days of my life was when I went to Member Only Hours at MoMA, and I walked alone, in silence. I live near the Met, and too many tour buses show up, discharge huge groups of people who hustle and shove from one famous piece to the other - ignoring the art that isn't in text books. It's not a checklist, it's a really incredible…

My first time at the Louvre, I was enjoying a relatively quiet stroll through the less crowded galleries after enjoying a thoroughly european vacation for about a week. It was only when I happened into a very busy gallery with a quickly moving throng of people. My reverie was shattered when I heard over my shoulder in a thick southern US drawl "Man, lets just go see the Mona Lisa and get the f * outta here." It was r…

I'm not sure why you're being downvoted. I first went to Paris in 2014, and I experienced the same thing. Throngs of people surrounding the Mona Lisa. I was with family that wasn't very receptive to the Louvre experience, so we pretty much "saw the Mona Lisa and got the f* out".

I'm heading back to Paris next month with just my wife, and I plan on spending at least 2 days in the Louvre. I wouldn't say that people ruin art, but what I saw with the Mona Lisa was not very positive.

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We should make all museums accessible to the public for free for people with low-income regardless of where they live. The art in this museum and the exhibits in other museums should be for all people.

Donations to these museums are tax deductible meaning that the taxpayer makes a significant contribution to these museums so that all museums are taxpayer supported.

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I don't have a problem with the general concept. Tourists spend a lot of money coming to visit NYC in no small part because of attractions like the Met. Why should the airlines, hotels, restaurants, bars and so on get some of that but not the actual attraction itself? That said, as I understand significant mismanagement and scope creep have lead to the financial shortfall that inspired this pricing change. I worry th…

The Met was build on a city property/building, and since the 1870 its mission has been to provide art and culture free of charge. Should the Met charge us residents but out of state visitors? eg. people that just live across Hudson (NJ)? How about, lets say the visiting parents of somebody that lives in NYC? How about people that lived here and moved away at some point. On the other hand, the Met has no alliance for…

Frankly, I’m still salty that the commuter tax was done away with by the corrupt Sheldon Silver. If the only thing that NJites have pay for is the Met they are getting off very easy. A similar argument can be made for the rest of the country, given our balance of payments with Washington.

The lifelong NYer that moved to Florida last year is a decent point, but it’s also a rather small edge case.

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