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Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by madaxe_again »

sambe wrote: post #12
pmden wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a newspaper - not an academic journal. Interesting figures, even if not directly related (or just flat-out misleading), are commonplace.

Do you think newspapers should not be called out on misleading information? It seems to me that not highlighting the good vs bad articles/papers is a net loss for public discourse.

The standard argument trotted out is that it's "up to the reader" to discern when they're being fed codswallop - because to tell them that they're reading nonsense would be an affront to their intelligence.

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Post by madaxe_again »

swarnie_ wrote: post #7

Completely anecdotal but i saw friends who moved on to long term use of "skunk" in the UK change a lot. They never kept up with the pack or reached close to their potential and ended up drifting away from the friendship group.

When you say "potential" and "screwed with minds", what do you mean? They decided that career and kids and a two bed semi weren't the most important things in life?

Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by dorcus_maximus »

nailer wrote: post #11

Reading from https://hightimes.com/culture/how-much-thc-is-in-a-dab-a-bow... > A pinner with 0.4 grams of weed should deliver roughly 36 mg of THC, while a gram joint will dish out 90 mg of THC. How much THC would be in a skunk joint? Edit: 14 / 9 * 90 = 140mg for a gram joint. This is excellent reason for the government to sieze control of cannabis by regulating, taxing, and controlling it. In Nevada recently cannab…

It would be exactly the same if you just put less of it in the joint. Since you can't seem to do the math, the article you refer to would be using weed that is 9% THC. 14% (in that skunk joint) is hardly a quantum leap in strength. Take two puffs instead of three, was that so hard? Or would you advise people that inhaling more smoke from burnt plants is actually better?

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Post by snarfy »

madaxe_again wrote: post #18
snarfy wrote: post #16

It's all purely anecdotal, but as a cannabis smoker of 30+ years that lived in an area with a large variety of cannabis types and strengths, there is definitely truth to 'skunk' causing problems. I don't believe there is anything special about the makeup of it, other than it's too strong for the way people smoke today. The tolerance range for cannabis is very large. A new smoker can take a single tiny puff and need t…

So.... it's OK for you, but not for the kids? I don't think anyone can smoke five grams in one sitting - and if they do, then that's their problem - not the strength of the stuff. I smoke the strong stuff, but I'll usually put 0.1g in a joint, not 5. I can't even envisage a 5g joint.

That's about 5 large bowls in a pipe.

Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by wavefunction »

snarfy wrote: post #24
madaxe_again wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So.... it's OK for you, but not for the kids? I don't think anyone can smoke five grams in one sitting - and if they do, then that's their problem - not the strength of the stuff. I smoke the strong stuff, but I'll usually put 0.1g in a joint, not 5. I can't even envisage a 5g joint.

That's about 5 large bowls in a pipe.

Very large bowls. In my heaviest usage periods of cannabis I smoke bowls by myself and I get a lot more than four bowls out of an eighth/3.8g.

Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by swarnie_ »

madaxe_again wrote: post #22
swarnie_ wrote: post #7

Completely anecdotal but i saw friends who moved on to long term use of "skunk" in the UK change a lot. They never kept up with the pack or reached close to their potential and ended up drifting away from the friendship group.

When you say "potential" and "screwed with minds", what do you mean? They decided that career and kids and a two bed semi weren't the most important things in life?

I fell there was a correlation between the use of this heavier strain of cannabis and still not having a job at 28 years old.

Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by nailer »

dorcus_maximus wrote: post #23
nailer wrote: post #11

Reading from https://hightimes.com/culture/how-much-thc-is-in-a-dab-a-bow... > A pinner with 0.4 grams of weed should deliver roughly 36 mg of THC, while a gram joint will dish out 90 mg of THC. How much THC would be in a skunk joint? Edit: 14 / 9 * 90 = 140mg for a gram joint. This is excellent reason for the government to sieze control of cannabis by regulating, taxing, and controlling it. In Nevada recently cannab…

It would be exactly the same if you just put less of it in the joint. Since you can't seem to do the math, the article you refer to would be using weed that is 9% THC. 14% (in that skunk joint) is hardly a quantum leap in strength. Take two puffs instead of three, was that so hard? Or would you advise people that inhaling more smoke from burnt plants is actually better?

No, I'd advise them to use edibles or vape. There's not much reason to ingest actual smoke anymore.

'Two puffs instead of three' doesn't really fix that joints aren't granular enough for most people: 10mg is fine for a casual cannabis user.

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Post by rainbowmverse »

swarnie_ wrote: post #26
madaxe_again wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say "potential" and "screwed with minds", what do you mean? They decided that career and kids and a two bed semi weren't the most important things in life?

I fell there was a correlation between the use of this heavier strain of cannabis and still not having a job at 28 years old.

There's a reason "correlation does not equal causation" is such a popular heuristic.

Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by redblacktree »

madaxe_again wrote: post #18
snarfy wrote: post #16

It's all purely anecdotal, but as a cannabis smoker of 30+ years that lived in an area with a large variety of cannabis types and strengths, there is definitely truth to 'skunk' causing problems. I don't believe there is anything special about the makeup of it, other than it's too strong for the way people smoke today. The tolerance range for cannabis is very large. A new smoker can take a single tiny puff and need t…

So.... it's OK for you, but not for the kids? I don't think anyone can smoke five grams in one sitting - and if they do, then that's their problem - not the strength of the stuff. I smoke the strong stuff, but I'll usually put 0.1g in a joint, not 5. I can't even envisage a 5g joint.

I believe it would be called a blunt at that point.

Re: Britain's 'Super Strength' Cannabis Could Be Causing Mental Health Problems

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Post by redblacktree »

nukeop wrote: post #8

While marijuana is a dangerous drug that ought to be illegal, this has all signs of a moral panic.

I have two questions for you, and I ask them in earnest:

1) Why do you believe marijuana to be a dangerous drug?

2) Have you had any personal experience with marijuana?

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