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Re: Canadian software engineers paid peanuts

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Post by hemantv » Mon, Feb 26, 2018, 4:15 AM UTC

danieltillett wrote: post #14

Like everything it is a factor of supply and demand. On the demand side there is not as great a demand from employers for software engineers in Canada, on the supply side immigration is considerably easier into Canada for software engineers. Less demand and greater supply = lower wages. We have the same issue here in Australia.

Not to refute you completely. Maybe it because there are not many companies that can be created with small populations as Canada and Australia? Which results in less companies.

US benefit far more from big large single market with high purchasing power than anything else. IMHO.

Let me know if I am missing something here.

Re: Canadian software engineers paid peanuts

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Post by johan_larson » Mon, Feb 26, 2018, 11:01 AM UTC

nakedgrape wrote: post #20

Hmm. I've seen these charts often but I have to say I've never met anyone get paid less than eighty. Myself and most of my peers at UBC start at about 90-110k for Google, Fb, Amazon and whatnot (only speaking for Vancouver). My dad also worked in software back in the day in Toronto and he was also rarely less than 100k.

Keep in mind that these figures are in American dollars. Also, the companies you mention are the elite of this industry, and pay accordingly. Other places pay less.

Re: Canadian software engineers paid peanuts

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Post by martinni » Mon, Feb 26, 2018, 8:17 PM UTC

johan_larson wrote: post #4

Davidbrcz wrote: post #3

Raw figures are worthless without taking into account cost of living, taxes and public services (social security, retirement plan).

If you have more accurate figures, by all means post them. But it's going to take a lot to span a gap this broad. For what it's worth, both Vancouver and Toronto were rated as "severely unaffordable" in the 14th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey: 2018. https://fcpp.org/wp-content/uploads/dhi2018-fcpp.pdf

Numbeo has a great cost of living comparison tool. Here's Toronto vs NYC. It shows that you need less money in Canada to maintain the same level of living.

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

I think the big one is this

> Rent Prices in New York, NY are 116.10% higher than in Toronto

It also doesn't account for different things like healthcare costs, etc.