How long will it take for people to actually move in?
... it will likely like take years or even decades to
build out the 9,850 units that Mountain View has slated
for North Bayshore, depending on market conditions.Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
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Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#2210k is a drop in the bucket. We need blocks of high rises going up around all the Caltrain stops, and a corresponding increase in Caltrain capacity.
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#23(Dec 13, 2017) - This is a great start. But I think we really need more like 100,000 new units built. Just to help reverse some of the astronomical housing prices. I have no idea how a teacher would be able to live in SV and plan to have a family and everything else. At this rate, the housing costs are unsustainable. We wont be able to have a functioning city with all the needed staffing like teachers, nurses, seller…
Unfortunately Scotts Valley and Santa Cruz have anti-housing factions similar to everywhere else in the Bay Area, and the pro-housing faction is in earlier stages of organization than in the Bay Area. Scotts Valley City Council actually had a member say in open meeting that they don't want "those type of people" living there, in reference to renters and presumably others without the means to buy a home. Santa Cruz is…
I would stand up and oppose dense urban housing plopped down in the middle my suburban single-family home neighborhood, too. I guess that makes me an evil, dirty NIMBY, but oh well, I'll live with the label.
When your message is "dense urban is the only acceptable way to live" don't be surprised when people who don't want their neighborhoods to turn into apartment complexes push back.
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#24Parking would be less of a deal if they built mixed developments, which are more desirable anyway. It’s quite nice being able to walk out of your house and drop right into a coffee shop, bar, or restaurant. Walking to work or school is amazing too. People here seem to be so afraid that their neighborhoods will begin to look more like Dubai or Hong Kong. But clearly what we’re doing now isn’t sustainable, nor is it ev…
If by mixed do you just mean residential over retail?
Is the Bay Area actually opposed to that?
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#25Parking would be less of a deal if they built mixed developments, which are more desirable anyway. It’s quite nice being able to walk out of your house and drop right into a coffee shop, bar, or restaurant. Walking to work or school is amazing too. People here seem to be so afraid that their neighborhoods will begin to look more like Dubai or Hong Kong. But clearly what we’re doing now isn’t sustainable, nor is it ev…
On my first trip to Hong Kong (decades ago, as a teenager) I remember my family stayed in a hotel with a shopping centre on the lower levels. You took an elevator down from your room that literally opened out into a supermarket, food court, department store, etc. I remember thinking it was awesome. Add other facilities within enjoyable walking distance and you're laughing, for those keen to live with that density.
I don’t see why people think HK is a bad model, sure Kowloon walled City was bad, but modern HK is quite nice.
I also got the impression that Dubai wasn’t very walkable, but I’ve never been there.
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#26Parking would be less of a deal if they built mixed developments, which are more desirable anyway. It’s quite nice being able to walk out of your house and drop right into a coffee shop, bar, or restaurant. Walking to work or school is amazing too. People here seem to be so afraid that their neighborhoods will begin to look more like Dubai or Hong Kong. But clearly what we’re doing now isn’t sustainable, nor is it ev…
Lots of our streetcar suburbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetcar_suburb) are walkable and low density. A key aspect of auto-dependence/sprawl is separation of uses (think big box commercial w/large parking lots vs numerous small commercial spaces throughout neighborhood). More central areas of Portland, OR are good examples (eg: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ladd's+Addition,+Portland,...).
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#27(Dec 13, 2017) - This is a great start. But I think we really need more like 100,000 new units built. Just to help reverse some of the astronomical housing prices. I have no idea how a teacher would be able to live in SV and plan to have a family and everything else. At this rate, the housing costs are unsustainable. We wont be able to have a functioning city with all the needed staffing like teachers, nurses, seller…
The problem is that most people making the decisions own one or more units. If they decided to build more housing, the value of their investments would decline.
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#28I wonder if it works: Company buys land to build office but sets apart a certain percentage for employee apartments. In essence a company town. Hires a management co to run it, no buys just lease. When the company folds, downsizes or whatever, the apartments are part of it. It costs, but it's cost of doing business.
Otherwise a huge company can distort the home market .
Maybe not enough land is available, especially in places like NYC or the city wont let them build 50 stories high apartment buildings?
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately Scotts Valley and Santa Cruz have anti-housing factions similar to everywhere else in the Bay Area, and the pro-housing faction is in earlier stages of organization than in the Bay Area. Scotts Valley City Council actually had a member say in open meeting that they don't want "those type of people" living there, in reference to renters and presumably others without the means to buy a home. Santa Cruz is…
I would stand up and oppose dense urban housing plopped down in the middle my suburban single-family home neighborhood, too. I guess that makes me an evil, dirty NIMBY, but oh well, I'll live with the label. When your message is "dense urban is the only acceptable way to live" don't be surprised when people who don't want their neighborhoods to turn into apartment complexes push back.
Yikes, stop with straw men. Live however you want! Nobody istearing down your house. Nobody is making you move. And NOBODY is plopping down density in the middle of single family homes, or even proposing that.
But please just let me live the way I and many others want. Just stop interfering with mixed use buildings in the middle of commercially zoned areas. So you might drive by a commercial area that has housing on top of retail, in a commercially zoned areas. What skin off your back is that?
And yes, it really is one of those small evils to make up crap like this in order to deny others housing, or a chance at opportunity like previous generations had.
Re: Mountain View approves 10,000 homes by Google's North Bayshore project (2017)
#30Parking would be less of a deal if they built mixed developments, which are more desirable anyway. It’s quite nice being able to walk out of your house and drop right into a coffee shop, bar, or restaurant. Walking to work or school is amazing too. People here seem to be so afraid that their neighborhoods will begin to look more like Dubai or Hong Kong. But clearly what we’re doing now isn’t sustainable, nor is it ev…
If by mixed do you just mean residential over retail? Is the Bay Area actually opposed to that?
Not sure about Mountain View but I've seen a bunch of new complexes in San Jose and Santa Clara with the residential over retail construction.