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Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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I really liked the Merrill hikers I started buying about 10 years ago. I wore out about 4 pair over the course of about 6 years. Then they quit making them and the next time I tried to buy a pair of Merrill's none of them were near as good. There were a lot of discussions on a backpacking forum I belong to about this and the universal consensus came to be that Merrill was no longer a shoe we could recommend. As they…

This is the trend with all Merrell's as far as I can tell. I had the same experience with the Trail Gloves as OP had. Which sucks, because Merrell could have been a good business for decades if they hadn't moved to the model of cutting costs and fucking customers to exploit brand loyalty biases.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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I really liked the Merrill hikers I started buying about 10 years ago. I wore out about 4 pair over the course of about 6 years. Then they quit making them and the next time I tried to buy a pair of Merrill's none of them were near as good. There were a lot of discussions on a backpacking forum I belong to about this and the universal consensus came to be that Merrill was no longer a shoe we could recommend. As they…

Have you found the "new" Merrill?

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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I've been a minimalist runner for about a decade at this point. Merrell disappointed me in this exact same way. They also used to have a zero drop gore-tex shoe for running in snow that they discontinued.

My best solution has been to turn towards running sandals. I've done a lot of barefoot (foot to ground) running, but the sandals provide enough protection from hot pavement and rocky trails. Also, the main reason I've had to throw away my minimalist shoes is due to how bad they smell after a while. That's not a problem with sandals.

There's a great company based out of Santa Cruz called Shamma. Leather straps and made to order for $70. I get a few thousand miles out of them. I've done hundred mile stretches on the PCT in them and even ran a 50 mile race in them. And I swear to god I do not work for the company. https://shammasandals.com/

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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Just a few days ago I was remembering a pair of these that I picked up back in the eighties for… a school play? I liked them so much that I wore them until they disintegrated.

We picked them up from a martial arts store (this was during the Karate Kid fad), and sure enough, a quick search for "kung fu shoes" on Amazon is all it took, $10. I'm going to grab a pair as soon as spring rolls around…

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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I'm not a runner but I am a hiker and what I learned was to buy resoleable boots (obviously this opinion is of no value to runners). There are lots of decent midpriced boots but all have the soles glued on. Typically they don't even last 1000 miles before they wear out and need replacement. The problem is that by then they have adjusted properly to my foot! Now i've had the same boot for almost a decade, having been…

Brand recommendations? The last three half hight hiking shoes I’ve bought have fallen apart in months...

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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Last year, I bought two pairs of Merrell boots: A "normal" pair and a winter pair (bit more insulation, and some extra-grippy bits on the soles).

Unfortunately, trial in the store was not long enough and/or was too distracting, but on both -- different models -- the "box" of the left boot is narrow than that of right. And over the course of a few hours and/or more extensive walking, this causes my left foot to hurt from the constraint. Meanwhile, my right foot is perfectly cosy and fine.

This is not something I have experienced regularly with other brands. For some reason, that season, Merrell seemed to be making lefts smaller/narrower.

(Unfortunately, I ended up severely ill for a couple of months, two days after purchase. By the time I was well enough to consider returning them, I was too embarrassed at the time passed. And I'd gotten them on quite a good combination of sales, meaning that the store probably would have had to eat their cost, if they took them back, due to model/yearly revisions.)

P.S. I'm returning to just buying "decent" stuff from LL Bean. I seem to find less size variation in their products (e.g. jeans). And even "premium" products too often seem to be a crap shoot, these days.

Although I do love and baby my Asolo's, bought from an expert who spent an hour fitting me. Over a decade ago, now. But I'm not going to wear them out on daily tromps for exercise on our local gravel trail.

P.P.S. I also had a pair of those Chinese slippers -- looked exactly like the ones pictured. Bought somewhere in San Francisco's Chinatown. They were ok, certainly for the price, although I wouldn't run in them. Had them until I took them to a friend's, because they were obsessive about people removing their shoes. Never got them back. You can't trust your friends, either. ;-)

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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I had a pair of Trail Gloves pictured and they were great. Every pair of Merrells I've bought since have been disappointing. Either wore down too fast or were uncomfortable.

I'm kinda confused. I'm wearing a pair of trail gloves right now, and Merrel has continued to make them, incrementing a version number along the way... I wear them every day, and have been rocking them for my last four pairs of shoes, using 'em til the sole wears through.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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My friend, the company you need to go visit is Vivobarefoot. They are not as cheap as your Chinese shoe, but they are the wide-toebox, no-support, tough-as-nails-soles that you have been looking for.

  https://www.vivobarefoot.com/
Because of them, every shoe that I wear for every occasion can be minimal and I get to feel everything under my feet everywhere I go. I even have fancy black leather shoes for special occasions.

They are wonderful.

Re: Merrell Trail Glove Failures and Minimal Running in a Communist Shoe

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I'm surprised that the author went with the vapor glove over another version of the trail glove.

I was another one of those that loved the first version. Ran them through multiple spartan races, half marathons, etc. They lasted a good 2 years before the sole really started to wear through. I remember looking for the next version during that time and seeing they were not continuing with the line. But they must have changed their mind, because they eventually came out with the trail glove 2.

I'm currently running with v2, with about a year of minimal wear on them, although it's mostly been weight training and 4 mile runs. They also seem to be continuing the line as it's now on v4. It would be interesting to see if there is any consistency on wear through the versions.

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