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Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by chrisseaton » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:53 AM UTC

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

I have very few complaints about apple music, and most of them are because I regard the Atomic Unit Of Music to be the studio album. 1. No Tool. :( 2. No easy way to reorder search results to be album first. 3. Date of original album release is buried. 4. Hard to filter by "studio album" vs "live album" vs "compilation album" vs "greatest hits album". 5. Siri can't help; "play me the third album by the rolling stones…

What do you mean by it doesn't have a tool?

I do think a lot of these services should do more to prioritise the canonical version of a track. When I search for a popular track I don't want to see an ocean of compilations before the original album it came from.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by animex » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:54 AM UTC

rxhernandez wrote: post #19

sanjeetsuhag wrote: post #10

Honestly, I can't imagine switching to Apple Music. Speaking as a guy who owns an iPhone and a Mac. I love being able to smoothly control playback from any device. I love how seamless the experience is, I've only tried the Apple Music Trial when it first came out and I can't see any possible reason to switch to it now. Spotify is excellent for music discovery, and I love the top songs and everything. It's perfect. It…

Google music has been the best for me: - IT doesn't block it at work(it blocks spotify) - I don't have to install anything - I don't see ads on youtube - it has all of my music that came from CDs backed up to it - I regularly discover new music through their Radio feature so long as the artist/song isn't super popular

Man, I miss Songza. While some of it seems absorbed, it just doesn't seem as UX/UI elegant as it was.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:54 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #21

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

I have very few complaints about apple music, and most of them are because I regard the Atomic Unit Of Music to be the studio album. 1. No Tool. :( 2. No easy way to reorder search results to be album first. 3. Date of original album release is buried. 4. Hard to filter by "studio album" vs "live album" vs "compilation album" vs "greatest hits album". 5. Siri can't help; "play me the third album by the rolling stones…

What do you mean by it doesn't have a tool? I do think a lot of these services should do more to prioritise the canonical version of a track. When I search for a popular track I don't want to see an ocean of compilations before the original album it came from.

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Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by vshastry » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:54 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #21

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

I have very few complaints about apple music, and most of them are because I regard the Atomic Unit Of Music to be the studio album. 1. No Tool. :( 2. No easy way to reorder search results to be album first. 3. Date of original album release is buried. 4. Hard to filter by "studio album" vs "live album" vs "compilation album" vs "greatest hits album". 5. Siri can't help; "play me the third album by the rolling stones…

What do you mean by it doesn't have a tool? I do think a lot of these services should do more to prioritise the canonical version of a track. When I search for a popular track I don't want to see an ocean of compilations before the original album it came from.

He means the band Tool. And yes, it is a shame their music isn’t on Apple Music.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by beisner » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:55 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #21

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

I have very few complaints about apple music, and most of them are because I regard the Atomic Unit Of Music to be the studio album. 1. No Tool. :( 2. No easy way to reorder search results to be album first. 3. Date of original album release is buried. 4. Hard to filter by "studio album" vs "live album" vs "compilation album" vs "greatest hits album". 5. Siri can't help; "play me the third album by the rolling stones…

What do you mean by it doesn't have a tool? I do think a lot of these services should do more to prioritise the canonical version of a track. When I search for a popular track I don't want to see an ocean of compilations before the original album it came from.

Tool is a band.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by heavymark » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:55 AM UTC

I like I'm sure many predicted this would be inevitable regardless how better one product is over another. At the end of the day Spotify can't compete with Apple's budget, and music streaming isn't a long term profitable business on it's own. I love Apple and deep into their ecosystem. However, certainly not a fan of Apple Music. When using on the Mac iTunes is rather horrific since everytime I search it searches local music rather than Apple Music or vice versa, or its in the Podcast tab, etc. They need a dedicated Music app for Mac and universal search without the iTunes store. I'm sure they are moving towards this but until then rather miserable. The Spotify app isn't as clean looking but is much more practical and enjoyable to use. Finally, Apple is about curated playlists, where is Spotify is about algorithms which in my experience is the better route. So while Spotify maybe the better product, at the end of the day, Apple Music is more seamless for people in the Apple Ecosystem of Siri, HomePod, AppleTV and all and in the end will win out. Let's hope Spotify stay's long enough to make Apple Music better.

Forgot to add, that personally, I love YouTube Music. The algorithms and search and pool of countless remixes, live performances and old videos/music not on other places is unmatched. It lacks the Apple Ecosystem benefit, but is a hidden gem

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by anfilt » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:56 AM UTC

anfilt wrote: post #18

Do not eat half-eaten rotten fruit. I repeat do not eat. It is bad fof your health.

What's the issue, I am pretty sure it's a bad idea to eat rotten food.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by paul7986 » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:57 AM UTC

finaliteration wrote: post #17

paul7986 wrote: post #4

I’ve been an unhappy subscriber since it started. Siri commands and Apple Music are essential when driving and thus I’m stuck with it(only use it while driving which is frequently). After three years it still sucks for me because... - bloated UX - try asking Siri to play all your “Recently Added,” songs without creating a new playlist. - how can I discover new music when driving? I can ask Siri play similar songs to…

I’m also stuck with the service due to the hands-free control with Siri. The cheesy/horrible/lame/non-copyrighted songs are awful and made worse by the fact that my kid will ask for nursery rhymes and you never know which version you’ll get because it doesn’t consistently play the same one.

I was thinking it's a business decision. Let's play as much public domain cheesy songs as possible and not have to pay.

Ummm Apple you have so much money and that's because you are so focused on providing the best phone UX. Why aren't you providing the best music streaming svc UX? Boggles my mind!

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by miguelrochefort » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:57 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #21

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

I have very few complaints about apple music, and most of them are because I regard the Atomic Unit Of Music to be the studio album. 1. No Tool. :( 2. No easy way to reorder search results to be album first. 3. Date of original album release is buried. 4. Hard to filter by "studio album" vs "live album" vs "compilation album" vs "greatest hits album". 5. Siri can't help; "play me the third album by the rolling stones…

What do you mean by it doesn't have a tool? I do think a lot of these services should do more to prioritise the canonical version of a track. When I search for a popular track I don't want to see an ocean of compilations before the original album it came from.

Tool is a band.

Re: Apple Music on Track to Overtake Spotify in U.S. Subscribers

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Post by freehunter » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 1:59 AM UTC

hprotagonist wrote: post #5

I have very few complaints about apple music, and most of them are because I regard the Atomic Unit Of Music to be the studio album. 1. No Tool. :( 2. No easy way to reorder search results to be album first. 3. Date of original album release is buried. 4. Hard to filter by "studio album" vs "live album" vs "compilation album" vs "greatest hits album". 5. Siri can't help; "play me the third album by the rolling stones…

I have just one complaint, and it's the Siri integration. I was having a frustrating day and I like a playlist called something like "chill" or "just chill" or "relax" or something like that... so I ask Siri to play relaxing music. Can't find it. Siri, play chill music. Can't find it. Siri, play chill playlist. You don't have a playlist called chill. Siri play calming music. Now playing Daft Punk "I Feel It Coming".

Everything else, eh the only good music UX was Zune, and Microsoft being Microsoft couldn't appreciate a good thing. But not having best-in-breed Siri integration is unacceptable and Siri is literally the only reason I use Apple Music. Now I'm re-thinking it.