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One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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This is a negative value article. It spends a lot of time dwelling on a low-value semantic argument that "when people in business say 'AI' they really mean machine learning". Sure, but these words have been used synonymously for a long time - my grad degree ~15 years ago concentrating in machine learning was called "AI"; who cares? Then the article goes on to claim: >I anticipate that after this passes, we can start…

Totally agree. This article contains very little that's new.

It criticizes Watson, but Watson was roundly debunked last year as far behind IBM's marketing machine.

It trots out the "teenagers & sex" quote, which frankly is applied to every new technology. "Teenagers & sex" belongs to a very small family of cliches that everyone in tech has heard. The fact that it gets used indiscriminately makes it mean very little with each new application.

And finally, I'll like to point out the irony of someone trotting out tired thoughts to get attention while criticizing supposedly overhyped tech. To the right, we have people making exaggeratedly positive claims about tech to grab your eyes, and to the left, we have their mirror image.

Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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post #11

This is a negative value article. It spends a lot of time dwelling on a low-value semantic argument that "when people in business say 'AI' they really mean machine learning". Sure, but these words have been used synonymously for a long time - my grad degree ~15 years ago concentrating in machine learning was called "AI"; who cares? Then the article goes on to claim: >I anticipate that after this passes, we can start…

> I've led several small-ish projects (1-2 people, 3-6 months) that could replace dozens or even 1000s of experts in their respective fields.

Can you give some specifics on projects?

Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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post #11

This is a negative value article. It spends a lot of time dwelling on a low-value semantic argument that "when people in business say 'AI' they really mean machine learning". Sure, but these words have been used synonymously for a long time - my grad degree ~15 years ago concentrating in machine learning was called "AI"; who cares? Then the article goes on to claim: >I anticipate that after this passes, we can start…

Whenever there's a big controversy, especially when it's about whether a "this" is or isn't a "that", the first thing I assume is that people are trying to make a taxonomy out of a continuum. I believe AI is like that. Just as there's a continuum from replicating molecule to god-like alien, there's an analogous continuum from a NAND gate to strong AI.

Heck, why assume it's a continuum when it could be n-dimensional space. There's lots of stuff that can't be mapped to the real number line.

Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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This time the hype is founded - Deep (Reinforcement) Learning truly pushed many AI domains out of uncanny valley. Image recognition/generation, speech recognition and synthesis, shallower language understanding - we truly have tech we have never seen before and only dreamed about. Of course, it won't solve everything, but the "solved level" got a massive upgrade with recent advancements. If we get GPUs that can compute DNNs 1000x faster, then we will see magic everywhere around us; so far the good models take very long to train, making them less adaptable to changing conditions.

Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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The cute robot soccer game is a disingenuous argument. Put a machine gun on one of those Boston Dynamic robots with image recognition targeting and tell me it's not scary.

Well, yeah, 'cause you will never know when or where it's going to start spewing bullets. (I'll just note that a Tesla just ran into a parked fire truck.)

Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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post #23
post #11

This is a negative value article. It spends a lot of time dwelling on a low-value semantic argument that "when people in business say 'AI' they really mean machine learning". Sure, but these words have been used synonymously for a long time - my grad degree ~15 years ago concentrating in machine learning was called "AI"; who cares? Then the article goes on to claim: >I anticipate that after this passes, we can start…

> I've led several small-ish projects (1-2 people, 3-6 months) that could replace dozens or even 1000s of experts in their respective fields. Can you give some specifics on projects?

In one project at a previous job we were able to pinpoint the genre, mood, instrumentation, etc of any new song with (usually) better-than-human accuracy in milliseconds using deep neural networks. This is better in pretty much every way than the 1000s of music experts that are employed by competitors and vendors.

https://tech.iheart.com/mapping-the-world-of-music-using-mac...

Not to mention personalized recommendations, which basically aren't possible at scale without some level of ML:

https://tech.iheart.com/mapping-the-world-of-music-using-mac...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12269568

The thing to keep in mind is every machine learning practitioner who is worth their salary is doing stuff like this. A lot of our every day work isn't as sexy as teaching a computer Go, but it's game-changing to most industries.

Re: One data scientist on the hype around artificial intelligence (2017)

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> artificial intelligence (AI), a sub-branch of machine learning I could have a failed mental model, but I'm under the impression that the relationship is the other way around. AI is a broad field encompassing various strategies to build intelligent machines. ML is one particular strategy where large volumes (think Big Data) of training data is used to teach by example. (Which makes Deep Learning a subset of ML, wher…

It's actually neither way. AI and ML have some intersection. There're machine learning methods which have little to do with AI, for example, logistic regression. There're AI methods which have nothing to do with ML, for example, logical inference.
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