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Google Is Eating Apple's Ecosystem for Lunch

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Re: Google Is Eating Apple's Ecosystem for Lunch

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Post by matwood »

yequalsx wrote: post #9

All of my devices are Apple devices. A crappy Dell laptop and my disasstifaction with Windows led me to switch to Apple 12 years ago. I loved the Mac operating system and that momentum got me to buy iPads and their phones. I use Apple Music. I use iDrive. I don’t use Siri. Apple Maps sucks and as a result I don’t use CarPlay. Apple Music search sucks. There’s a bunch of thing now in Apple’s ecosystem that don’t “just…

I'm in a similar boat, even down to when/why I switched. I have an Apple Watch, MBP, and iPhone, and am mostly happy with them. I also have a google home and a bunch of chromecasts. Siri just doesn't seem to work as well, while home is constantly improving.

Software wise, Inbox is better than Mail.app, Google maps are better, Google calendar is better, Google photos are better, etc...

Re: Google Is Eating Apple's Ecosystem for Lunch

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Post by matwood »

BadassFractal wrote: post #2

Can I buy into the google software ecosystem + Google Home without trading in my MBP/iPhone/iPad for a Chromebook/Pixel/Nexus?

Yes, it's basically what I have. I'm not a fan of the Chromebook/Pixel hardware, but a lot of Google software is much better than Apple.

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Post by Thriptic »

BadassFractal wrote: post #2

Can I buy into the google software ecosystem + Google Home without trading in my MBP/iPhone/iPad for a Chromebook/Pixel/Nexus?

Yes, all the core Google services are available on Apple devices (search, inbox, photos, drive, maps, chat, chrome...)

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Post by subpixel »

yequalsx wrote: post #9

All of my devices are Apple devices. A crappy Dell laptop and my disasstifaction with Windows led me to switch to Apple 12 years ago. I loved the Mac operating system and that momentum got me to buy iPads and their phones. I use Apple Music. I use iDrive. I don’t use Siri. Apple Maps sucks and as a result I don’t use CarPlay. Apple Music search sucks. There’s a bunch of thing now in Apple’s ecosystem that don’t “just…

I’m in the same boat, and resolved never to buy a new iPhone again since from a consumer perspective I believe the premium cost is unjustified. I bought my most recent iPhone on Swappa but I’m getting closer to the point where I leave Apple altogether.

Last week I had to connect my iPhone to my computer (despite wireless sync being enabled), use iTunes to copy audiobook files to my phone, and then for some reason I can only access them in the iBooks app on the phone, despite them not being available in the app of the same name on my Mac. It reminded me of Bill Gates’ famous MovieMaker rant.

One more thing...if I want to watch video files on my iOS device, why do I need to use an obscure app called TV? Would it make sense if I had to use an app called Radio to listen to audio files?

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Post by tonfa »

melling wrote: post #8

Amazon’s Echo is far ahead of Google Home in sales. They’re trying to get voice in everything. Many companies were showing off Alexa built into their products at CES. Voice as a user interface is almost here: https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/voice-as-a-user-inte... How long before a significant amount of search is simply asking some device a question and being told the answer?

Is Alexa launched for non US? European market is pretty big and needs support for non English languages (Google home is already launched in a bunch of European countries).

Similar to Apple with the iPhone, Amazon dominance on voice interfaces might end up being only true for the US market.

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Post by JepZ »

Well, we all know that the google services are pretty convenient, but the problem is much less their functionality as the things 'you have to do' in order to use them, like:

- load all your images on their servers

- load all your documents on their servers

- load all your mails on their servers

- load all your contacts on their servers

- load all your appointments on their servers

- load all your...

That way it is completely non-transparent what they are doing with your data. I mean for every app on our smartphone we have a detailed list of permissions, but for google its just 'take it all'?!?

Re: Google Is Eating Apple's Ecosystem for Lunch

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

tonfa wrote: post #25
melling wrote: post #8

Amazon’s Echo is far ahead of Google Home in sales. They’re trying to get voice in everything. Many companies were showing off Alexa built into their products at CES. Voice as a user interface is almost here: https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/voice-as-a-user-inte... How long before a significant amount of search is simply asking some device a question and being told the answer?

Is Alexa launched for non US? European market is pretty big and needs support for non English languages (Google home is already launched in a bunch of European countries). Similar to Apple with the iPhone, Amazon dominance on voice interfaces might end up being only true for the US market.

Apple iPhone does really well in Asia. Not sure where you think dominance is only true for the USA.
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