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Launch HN: Enzyme (YC S17) – Automating FDA Compliance and Approval

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Re: Launch HN: Enzyme (YC S17) – Automating FDA Compliance and Approval

#21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Alternative submission pathways: what do you mean by this precisely De novos, abbreviated 510(k)s, lesser used pathways. > Pre-cert: I think the premise is correct, in that the current quality system regulations aren’t well suited to modern SW development practice. But the devil will be in the details. Regardless it won’t affect us significantly because whatever gets released will have to have a phase-in for existi…

> De novos, abbreviated 510(k)s, lesser used pathways. De novo’s definitely, abbreviated 510(k)’s as well (that’s more of a requirements -> standard conformance challenge which a system like ours is particularly suited to demonstrate), but to your point they’re not that common. > In my eyes it's really a question of how long FDA will be expecting traditional submissions while they roll out a model geared more around…

> Yes but in a certain sense for many digital health companies this is already true, because they’re 510(k) exempt and FDA’s oversight occurs retroactively via QMS auditing

Yeah fair enough; it's true that there has been a large regulatory shift with the appearance of general wellness and enforcement discretion and the resulting erosion of class 1 and somewhat of class 2.

> The near term challenge for digital health, until precert comes online, is that there are a limited number of software experts at FDA. To the Agency’s credit, they have recognized this and are trying to remedy it. But the big problem we see with software submissions is that things get overlooked, and in such a way that speaks to an overworked reviewers. This of course leads to delays, which is why it’s very important for software submissions to be buttoned up. This is one the things we’re tryijg to make happen with our QMS, which generates more reports that clearly map from requirement->code->test.

I totally agree with this. If you could create a software submission which efficiently communicated traceability, verification and validation info, and the other key metrics the FDA wanted to see, that would be pretty huge in terms of submission turnaround time. Best of luck guys.

Re: Launch HN: Enzyme (YC S17) – Automating FDA Compliance and Approval

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> De novos, abbreviated 510(k)s, lesser used pathways. De novo’s definitely, abbreviated 510(k)’s as well (that’s more of a requirements -> standard conformance challenge which a system like ours is particularly suited to demonstrate), but to your point they’re not that common. > In my eyes it's really a question of how long FDA will be expecting traditional submissions while they roll out a model geared more around…

> Yes but in a certain sense for many digital health companies this is already true, because they’re 510(k) exempt and FDA’s oversight occurs retroactively via QMS auditing Yeah fair enough; it's true that there has been a large regulatory shift with the appearance of general wellness and enforcement discretion and the resulting erosion of class 1 and somewhat of class 2. > The near term challenge for digital health,…

> I totally agree with this. If you could create a software submission which efficiently communicated traceability, verification and validation info, and the other key metrics the FDA wanted to see, that would be pretty huge in terms of submission turnaround time. Best of luck guys.

Thanks! Sounds like you’re pretty well-versed in this, if there’s some way you can help you with a future product please reach out!

Re: Launch HN: Enzyme (YC S17) – Automating FDA Compliance and Approval

#25

Do you have any plans to work with or refer to a preferred set of qualified device security professionals? AFAIU, medical devices tend to require a lot of fuzzing and secured upgrades. The Update Framework requires multiply-signed releases.

Barnaby Jack would probably respect having his story told as an anecdote about the real costs of medical device security. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnaby_Jack

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FDA > Digital Health > Cyber security: https://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/DigitalHealth/ucm373213.h...

""" Information for Healthcare Organizations about FDA's "Guidance for Industry: Cybersecurity for Networked Medical Devices Containing Off-The-Shelf (OTS) Software" """ https://www.fda.gov/RegulatoryInformation/Guidances/ucm07063...

Re: Launch HN: Enzyme (YC S17) – Automating FDA Compliance and Approval

#26

I've been researching building the Dollar Shave Club for condoms...I know there has been some recent FDA guidance on relaxing rules around size - would a new condom produced by an OEM be a good candidate for Enzyme?

Yes. This type of innovation — where you can demonstrate evolution on an existing product class — is very much in our wheelhouse.

And, yeah, FDA recently increased the range of condom sizes they would accept, thus enabling the kind of thing you’re proposing.

Re: Launch HN: Enzyme (YC S17) – Automating FDA Compliance and Approval

#28

Curious to know how you conveyed this as a venture scale company? There is a YC incorporation company that didn’t scale (not meant to be a dig), so curious about what’s different.

There are a couple of things that are distinct about us contra an incorporation company: 1) Compliance is an ongoing activity regardless of how many new products you release. Think something like HIPAA, but more pervasive. So there’s an ongoing need that is ordinarily fulfilled by people - everything from a consultant for a garage startup to 1,000s of FTEs for a Fortune 500 company. This creates an ongoing, sticky cu…

FDA approvals are increasing.

FDA has policy dynamicism which creates a moat.

Many foreign countries co-opt the FDA process as their own. That's how performant our FDA happens to be, despite criticisms from a lot of people in web tech.

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