Somewhat predictably, the (static, non-interactive) page took about 30 seconds to load, thanks to all the Javascript.
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2017 JavaScript Rising Stars
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#22It’s a bit unfortunate that Elm will always be left out of lists like this. Yes it’s a different language that compiles to JavaScript, but unlike other languages that do this, Elm exists solely to excel at front-end web development. Ironically, that Redux and React equivalents are some of the “batteries included” in Elm can make it harder to pitch because at first it seems like you’d have to add that stuff in.
Reading over the Elm documentation, I respect the ideals a lot, it looks like a fantastic language, but why does it need to be a completely new language instead of a framework in js? It's not particularly convincing to my co-workers if I have to convince them to try a completely new syntax instead of just a new framework. Actually, I think this is why something like cycle.js is more tractable.
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#23Somewhat predictably, the (static, non-interactive) page took about 30 seconds to load, thanks to all the Javascript.
Nope, javascript is less than 1/4 of this page, time for the "above the fold" render for me (on standard laptop + broadband) is under 0.5 seconds.
Please examine other possible causes for a 30 second page load, unless you're running on an 1st gen raspberry pi, 56k modem and a browser with a showstoppingly bad js engine.
EDIT, using chrome's dev tools I tried loading with the "slow 3g" preset, rendering of useful textual + hyperlink content took under 10 seconds, images slowly came in after that over a longer period.
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#24Somewhat predictably, the (static, non-interactive) page took about 30 seconds to load, thanks to all the Javascript.
Hmm, mine was done in four seconds, on my phone.
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#25Why learn Javascript when you can't find a job unless you are privileged
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#26Why learn Javascript when you can't find a job unless you are privileged
Wat?
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#27It’s a bit unfortunate that Elm will always be left out of lists like this. Yes it’s a different language that compiles to JavaScript, but unlike other languages that do this, Elm exists solely to excel at front-end web development. Ironically, that Redux and React equivalents are some of the “batteries included” in Elm can make it harder to pitch because at first it seems like you’d have to add that stuff in.
Reading over the Elm documentation, I respect the ideals a lot, it looks like a fantastic language, but why does it need to be a completely new language instead of a framework in js? It's not particularly convincing to my co-workers if I have to convince them to try a completely new syntax instead of just a new framework. Actually, I think this is why something like cycle.js is more tractable.
Because a framework can't bring new language primitives, such as types?
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#28It’s a bit unfortunate that Elm will always be left out of lists like this. Yes it’s a different language that compiles to JavaScript, but unlike other languages that do this, Elm exists solely to excel at front-end web development. Ironically, that Redux and React equivalents are some of the “batteries included” in Elm can make it harder to pitch because at first it seems like you’d have to add that stuff in.
I never did any web stuff—-considered it beneath me—-before Elm. Now I will do web front ends myself.
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#29Most promising project for larger enterprise I discovered in 2017:
Single SPA - a Javascript Meta Framework https://github.com/CanopyTax/single-spa
>>Use multiple frameworks on the same page without refreshing the page (React, AngularJS, Angular, Ember, or whatever you're using) >>Write code using a new framework, without rewriting your existing app >>Lazy load code for improved initial load time.
Unfortunately also missing in lists like this one.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading over the Elm documentation, I respect the ideals a lot, it looks like a fantastic language, but why does it need to be a completely new language instead of a framework in js? It's not particularly convincing to my co-workers if I have to convince them to try a completely new syntax instead of just a new framework. Actually, I think this is why something like cycle.js is more tractable.
Because a framework can't bring new language primitives, such as types?
No language that "compiles to javascript" really creates new language primitives - it would have to rewrite the interpreter to do that. What it does do - simulating new language features in javascript - could theoretically be done with a framework as well.