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The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by myth_drannon »

Kajayacht wrote: post #2

One of the things I don't think it accounts for in talking about the downfall of something like jQuery is that as time goes on, the questions have already been asked. So of course there's going to be less questions asked about jQuery in 2017 versus 2009, because if I need to figure out how to select elements based on an attribute rather than a class or id, it's already there.

StackOverflow's job posts show the same trend. Jquery is required less and less http://www.reallyhyped.com/?keywords=angularjs%2Creactjs%2Cj...

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by rplnt »

The JavaScript/jQuery community (no difference from outside) was absolutely cancerous. It was impossible to find a javascript question that didn't include top answer "In jQuery...". Makes my blood boil just thinking about it years later.

I wonder what effect this has on usage. How likely are new developers to use it if virtually every question they have is answered by this (no matter how irrelevant the answer should be today).

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by lakechfoma »

myth_drannon wrote: post #21
Kajayacht wrote: post #2

One of the things I don't think it accounts for in talking about the downfall of something like jQuery is that as time goes on, the questions have already been asked. So of course there's going to be less questions asked about jQuery in 2017 versus 2009, because if I need to figure out how to select elements based on an attribute rather than a class or id, it's already there.

StackOverflow's job posts show the same trend. Jquery is required less and less http://www.reallyhyped.com/?keywords=angularjs%2Creactjs%2Cj...

But again probably less and more . That's a really nice tool though

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by qaq »

Kajayacht wrote: post #2

One of the things I don't think it accounts for in talking about the downfall of something like jQuery is that as time goes on, the questions have already been asked. So of course there's going to be less questions asked about jQuery in 2017 versus 2009, because if I need to figure out how to select elements based on an attribute rather than a class or id, it's already there.

Very good point and this obviously can skew the results greatly. Working in a fairly senior mid-size team I don't remember any of my colleagues asking any question on SO either so results could be also skewed by composition of user base and how good the docs are for a given proj.

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by bigmanwalter »

rplnt wrote: post #22

The JavaScript/jQuery community (no difference from outside) was absolutely cancerous. It was impossible to find a javascript question that didn't include top answer "In jQuery...". Makes my blood boil just thinking about it years later. I wonder what effect this has on usage. How likely are new developers to use it if virtually every question they have is answered by this (no matter how irrelevant the answer should…

To be fair, that's because the jQuery solution was usually orders of magnitude simpler. Although newer versions of javascript have absorbed enough of the jQuery api that this is no longer the case.

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by kozhevnikov »

scotchio wrote: post #25

Woah... Was honestly surprised to see Vue.js was so tiny in comparison to Ang and React regarding "% of Stack Overflow questions that month". I thought it was much bigger

Vue.js has a spectacular tutorial that answers most if not all questions one might have about the framework.

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by myth_drannon »

lakechfoma wrote: post #23
myth_drannon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

StackOverflow's job posts show the same trend. Jquery is required less and less http://www.reallyhyped.com/?keywords=angularjs%2Creactjs%2Cj...

But again probably less and more . That's a really nice tool though

That's a possible explanation too. No one wants to say that the job is mostly maintaining large Angular codebase in addition to a small internal tool written in React that only senior stuff is allowed to play with...But hey we are a React shop!

Re: The Brutal Lifecycle of JavaScript Frameworks

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Post by romanovcode »

scotchio wrote: post #25

Woah... Was honestly surprised to see Vue.js was so tiny in comparison to Ang and React regarding "% of Stack Overflow questions that month". I thought it was much bigger

As much as it is praised in HN it is not that much adopted compared to Angular or React in the real world.
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