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Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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Post by int_19h »

prove_np wrote: post #17

It sad to see such an article in the top posts at HW... I wouldn't even bother to reply if not for good people getting the wrong picture on what's going on. Yes, Facebook does delete posts (Nothing new so far), though only ones which violate Facebook's rules. I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. I'm not here to blame, nor generalize. I'm saying that this…

The story isn't even about Israel and Palestinians per se. It's about how, when you institute censorship (whether public or private) supposedly for the sake of public good, in practice it tends to be used by groups in power to target groups who aren't - i.e. by majorities against minorities, or, as is the case in Israel, by the occupying force against political dissent among occupied populace.

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Post by yakitori »

saas_co_de wrote: post #5

There is no way Facebook can satisfy the competing demands of different political factions and their own users so the more they capitulate to political demands the more users they will drive away and the more radical the demands on them will become. Hopefully this intensifies their downward spiral into irrelevance.

> There is no way Facebook can satisfy the competing demands of different political factions and their own users so the more they capitulate to political demands the more users they will drive away and the more radical the demands on them will become.

Yep. This is why FB, GOOGL, etc needed to be "neutral". The day they caved in is the day their "promise" ended. The demands of censorship will continue. FB is deluding themselves if they think this is a one time deal. And not only that, other countries will start barring FB/GOOGL/etc when it becomes apparent that they are essentially biased political tools.

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goatsi wrote: post #19
prove_np wrote: post #17

It sad to see such an article in the top posts at HW... I wouldn't even bother to reply if not for good people getting the wrong picture on what's going on. Yes, Facebook does delete posts (Nothing new so far), though only ones which violate Facebook's rules. I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. I'm not here to blame, nor generalize. I'm saying that this…

>For what it's worth, the hatred being published about Israel does not go the other way around. I, and many others, do respect and have no hate for Palestinians. The article does disagree with that view. >As Al Jazeera reported last year, “Inflammatory speech posted in the Hebrew language . . . has attracted much less attention from the Israeli authorities and Facebook. One study found that ‘122,000 users directly ca…

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Re: Facebook Is Deleting Accounts at the Direction of the US and Israeli Governments

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Post by tzahola »

danjoc wrote: post #6
lostlogin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or promoting Palestinian civil rights. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/10/facebook-targeting-pal...

It's Facebook's business. They can run it any way they want. You want to promote Palestinian civil rights? Start your own Facebook.

>They can ruin it any way they want.

Fixed that for you

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Post by pwaai »

prove_np wrote: post #17

It sad to see such an article in the top posts at HW... I wouldn't even bother to reply if not for good people getting the wrong picture on what's going on. Yes, Facebook does delete posts (Nothing new so far), though only ones which violate Facebook's rules. I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals. I'm not here to blame, nor generalize. I'm saying that this…

> I live in Israel and not once I've been shown some horrible video of Palestinians attacking locals.

Well, if you bury your head in the sand on a hot summer afternoon and proceed to claim its night, it's hard to take further claims seriously.

I will agree that there is extremists on both ends that just furthers their own political/economic interests and muddies the water.

...but my analysis of the conflict over there is that it is much deeper than politics or economics, spanning millenias of beef.

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Post by KaoruAoiShiho »

yakitori wrote: post #23
saas_co_de wrote: post #5

There is no way Facebook can satisfy the competing demands of different political factions and their own users so the more they capitulate to political demands the more users they will drive away and the more radical the demands on them will become. Hopefully this intensifies their downward spiral into irrelevance.

> There is no way Facebook can satisfy the competing demands of different political factions and their own users so the more they capitulate to political demands the more users they will drive away and the more radical the demands on them will become. Yep. This is why FB, GOOGL, etc needed to be "neutral". The day they caved in is the day their "promise" ended. The demands of censorship will continue. FB is deluding…

We're not yet in some cyberpunk world of sovereign corporations (not sure I'd prefer that anyway). Companies work within the political control of nation states. Dismantle state power if you want what you say to be possible, as it is it's just not.

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Post by wolco »

Barrin92 wrote: post #14
doggydogs94 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In that case, you can help them secure the capital.

The problem isn't just capital in the sense of fiat currency, the problem is that they have no state and no rule of law, no incorporation into the global economy either formally or factually. There is no real way to even operate a global or local industry without the basic requirements, they are excluded from the rest of the world. There isn't a single serious facebook competitor in the entire United States. Please d…

There are smaller players but the problem is most people have lost interest because of facebook so people are disconnecting rather than switching.

Other countries like Russia has there own successful facebook.

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