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Not raising funds to stay small and happy

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Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

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post #19

> Not raising funds to stay small and happy But in this winner-takes-all reality, is that possible? If your business concept becomes successful, what prevents a bigger player to copy it, improve upon it, and steal away your customers?

They might out-advertise you, but it's not at all easy to beat a well oiled team of three talented persons on the technical front. Just throwing money at a problem does not guaranty a superior product.

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

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post #4

Rarely comment, but definitely identify with this. Given HN's general focus on growth and funding, I think it's great/important for an article/concept like this to be given some reach. I find that there isn't enough critical thought given to why one ought to pursue an aggressive growth strategy. And that generally, staying small is seen as a failure to grow, rather than a conscious effort to grow in line with ones ow…

Startup is aimed at growth, to become next unicorn. If your business is not aimed at growth, then it is just regular business. YCombinator is incubator for startups, hence their HN site is aimed at startups too.

It very much depends on how you define a startup

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

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I also had these thoughts when I bootstrapped but the problem is not being able to hire a great team that can build something you would not be able to. If you’re all 3 single guys in 20s, enjoy 20s. When you’re married and have kids, then you’ll care about bills rather than lifestyle and retreats.

Depends how much you're making as a bootstrapper? If $10 or 15k a month isn't able to fund your lifestyle then you'll probably have problems later in life. Also, unless you're based in the Bay area / NYC / London, hiring people generally won't cost you $10k/mo per employee. Also, no one says you can't sell your bootstrapped business. A project generating $30k in profit can generally be sold for $1-1.3m. Reinvest that…

You can definitely make over $1m a year running a bootstrapped business. On the high end of the success scale you can walk away with more money than a successful VC backed co-founder.

There are more businesses that are totally inappropriate for VC than should take VC money. The problem is everyone is equating tech businesses with VC. There are plenty of dead tech startups that actually have modest economics and would have worked if VC, and the high expenses of the top tier US talent, had been avoided.

Another note, something I’ve learned more recently. Some businesses won’t make more money even if you force more capital in to them. You can end up with a really good company that can be profitable for decades, but destroy it by force feeding it outside capital (VC or other.) It is important to identify this early.

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#24
post #4

Rarely comment, but definitely identify with this. Given HN's general focus on growth and funding, I think it's great/important for an article/concept like this to be given some reach. I find that there isn't enough critical thought given to why one ought to pursue an aggressive growth strategy. And that generally, staying small is seen as a failure to grow, rather than a conscious effort to grow in line with ones ow…

Startup is aimed at growth, to become next unicorn. If your business is not aimed at growth, then it is just regular business. YCombinator is incubator for startups, hence their HN site is aimed at startups too.

You missed an important point: a startup can pursue growth in a healthy way which is not frantically scaling. It can take a decade or more to convert/pivot your company into a valuable one. The typical VC fund structure limits this approach.

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#25
post #4

Rarely comment, but definitely identify with this. Given HN's general focus on growth and funding, I think it's great/important for an article/concept like this to be given some reach. I find that there isn't enough critical thought given to why one ought to pursue an aggressive growth strategy. And that generally, staying small is seen as a failure to grow, rather than a conscious effort to grow in line with ones ow…

Startup is aimed at growth, to become next unicorn. If your business is not aimed at growth, then it is just regular business. YCombinator is incubator for startups, hence their HN site is aimed at startups too.

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Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#26
post #19

> Not raising funds to stay small and happy But in this winner-takes-all reality, is that possible? If your business concept becomes successful, what prevents a bigger player to copy it, improve upon it, and steal away your customers?

Because, realistically, those big companies aren't interested in competing for your little $10k/month niche. Even a million dollar a year revenue stream would be seen as a failure for them.

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#27
post #19

> Not raising funds to stay small and happy But in this winner-takes-all reality, is that possible? If your business concept becomes successful, what prevents a bigger player to copy it, improve upon it, and steal away your customers?

> what prevents a bigger player to copy it, improve upon it

Its size can be as much a hindrance as a help. Big companies turn more slowly and are less likely to put out elegant ideas for the same reason a committee is.

Paul Graham writes about how his small online store was able to turn out features faster because he was leaner. I can't find it among his essays (http://paulgraham.com/articles.html) but Getting Real, a small book by the makers of Basecamp, says the same thing (https://basecamp.com/books/getting-real).

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#28
post #11

Building a small boot-strapped company vs a funded company is in a large part dictated by market and product rather than by individual intention. If you try to build a funded company in a space that can't sustain one you will struggle, likewise if you try to build a small bootstrapped company in a space that can you will similarly struggle. If your direct competitors have a much better product then you (because they…

> If your direct competitors have a much better product then you (because they have more dev/product/ux resources than you), a professional sales org, marketing machine, etc. then it's very hard to compete. Your acquisition costs and churn will be high which will severely hurt your ability to grow to a sustainable level. I would disagree. If the customers are comfortable with your product, and they don't feel a big r…

Even a couple of percentage points of churn is a big deal in the long term as you have to keep replacing those customers just to stand still.

If you're in a moribund space you can get away with a MVP product for a long time, but if you're in a highly competitive space where your competitors have a significantly better product and a better sales team it has a real impact.

The other major factor driving churn in bootstrapped b2bs is they largely sell to SMEs who have a high-rate of insolvency.

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#29
post #19

> Not raising funds to stay small and happy But in this winner-takes-all reality, is that possible? If your business concept becomes successful, what prevents a bigger player to copy it, improve upon it, and steal away your customers?

> what prevents a bigger player to copy it, improve upon it Its size can be as much a hindrance as a help. Big companies turn more slowly and are less likely to put out elegant ideas for the same reason a committee is. Paul Graham writes about how his small online store was able to turn out features faster because he was leaner. I can't find it among his essays ( http://paulgraham.com/articles.html ) but Getting Real…

> Its size can be as much a hindrance as a help.

Big companies like Google know this, and often seem to structure themselves into small competitive groups.

Re: Not raising funds to stay small and happy

#30
post #4

Rarely comment, but definitely identify with this. Given HN's general focus on growth and funding, I think it's great/important for an article/concept like this to be given some reach. I find that there isn't enough critical thought given to why one ought to pursue an aggressive growth strategy. And that generally, staying small is seen as a failure to grow, rather than a conscious effort to grow in line with ones ow…

Startup is aimed at growth, to become next unicorn. If your business is not aimed at growth, then it is just regular business. YCombinator is incubator for startups, hence their HN site is aimed at startups too.

Exactly. Startup = Growth http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html
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