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Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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But can they reproduce in the soil at the same range of air pressure found in habitats, with the same gravity / gas mixture? Can they still reproduce after 50 years?

If these habitats are also housing people, then the atmosphere will likely be very close to Earth pressure and composition.

The atmospheric pressure on the ISS is very close to 1 atmosphere, and it's an oxygen-nitrogen mix close to earth's atmosphere.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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If we are able to conclusively determine that Mars is no longer host to life, should we try to seed the planet with carbon dioxide & methane producing organisms in order to create an atmosphere?

That wouldn't do much good unless we can re-establish the magnetosphere.

Ah yeah, forgot about that. And restarting the core dynamo seems pretty infeasible regardless or our technological capabilities.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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If we are able to conclusively determine that Mars is no longer host to life, should we try to seed the planet with carbon dioxide & methane producing organisms in order to create an atmosphere?

That wouldn't do much good unless we can re-establish the magnetosphere.

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Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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Excessive radiation can also kill plants and animals

Even before it kills them, it definitely ruins their reproductive capacity, which is going to be critical offworld.

We could have a breeding population in an expensive shielded environment, and take most of their young to grow in a cheap, more radioactive environment.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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But can they reproduce in the soil at the same range of air pressure found in habitats, with the same gravity / gas mixture? Can they still reproduce after 50 years?

If these habitats are also housing people, then the atmosphere will likely be very close to Earth pressure and composition. The atmospheric pressure on the ISS is very close to 1 atmosphere, and it's an oxygen-nitrogen mix close to earth's atmosphere.

A mars mission won't be getting frequent short-hop trips from earth. I would expect the habitats to use reduced-pressure atmospheres with less to no nitrogen.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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If we are able to conclusively determine that Mars is no longer host to life, should we try to seed the planet with carbon dioxide & methane producing organisms in order to create an atmosphere?

That wouldn't do much good unless we can re-establish the magnetosphere.

I think it is still an open (and hotly debated) question on if planets need magnetospheres to retain an atmosphere.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That wouldn't do much good unless we can re-establish the magnetosphere.

I think it is still an open (and hotly debated) question on if planets need magnetospheres to retain an atmosphere.

A magnetosphere is required to shield from charges particles and other harmful radiation.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even before it kills them, it definitely ruins their reproductive capacity, which is going to be critical offworld.

We could have a breeding population in an expensive shielded environment, and take most of their young to grow in a cheap, more radioactive environment.

Now that’s a really interesting idea! Add in a bank of shielded frozen embryos and sperm and yes, I can see your point.

Re: Earthworms can reproduce in Mars soil simulant

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But can they reproduce in the soil at the same range of air pressure found in habitats, with the same gravity / gas mixture? Can they still reproduce after 50 years?

Need to run that experiment on the ISS in a Mars-gravity centrifuge. Despite a lifetime of 6-9 years, though, their generation length is only a few months; if they reproduce in that radiation environment for a year or three and there aren't serious mutations, they'll probably be okay in the long run.

And in a few generations probably evolve to build further resiliency for the subject radiation/gravity/air pressure conditions.
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