Why aren't more people talking about this? iPhones are wildly popular and this is a gigantic confirmation of something the public has suspected for years.
Apple Confirms It Degrades Your Old iPhone
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#22Why aren't more people talking about this? iPhones are wildly popular and this is a gigantic confirmation of something the public has suspected for years.
It’ll be all over the news tomorrow.
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#23I just wish they'd been more transparent - perhaps a message in the battery section of settings saying "your performance may be impacted because of your degraded battery. It's recommended you replace it" or something. New batteries are $119AU which I think is a reasonable price to pay after two years or so. Everyone knows components in cars need replacing, including batteries, so I think people can be reasoned with i…
"I just wish they'd been more transparent " I don't see it as a lack of transparency. That smacks of underhand and fraudulent behaviour. I won't buy another iPhone. In a similar vein, you can no longer move photos from your computer to your iPhone unless you subscribe to the paid Cloud service. iTunes will no longer allow you to do that.
Since when was this restriction imposed ?
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#24A co-work of mine sent me this article after his iPhone 6S slowed down considerably after installing iOS 11. He thought that his battery was defunct and causing the issue.
I suggested he turn off the animations that are designed to run on the latest phones and are more processor intensive. (One other thing that will help, however, is to cut back on the transition animations in iOS 11. Go to Settings > General > Accessibility > Reduce Motion and toggle it to off.) And like magic, his phone ran as fast as it ever did!
I did the same thing with my sluggish iPhone 5, and did a reinstall clearing all my data, and it runs really great now, as if it were brand new!
Makes me wonder how many people will think they have the battery issue when in reality they have features turned on that will inherently bog down the older phones. You'd think Apple would auto detect the model and by default have features like animation turned off. But perhaps their motivation is not to give their customers the best experience?!?
f you want to speed up your older iPhone, this article covers most of what I did for my iPhone 5 last year: http://bgr.com/2017/09/19/ios-11-features-iphone-how-to-spee...)
Totally aside from the above, I turned off the animations on my iPhone X and it seems to run slower. Not sure what that is all about.
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That's just bullshit overhead that Apple likes to bake in. How about a removable battery so customers arent screwed every 2 years?
Like a car you're welcome to do it yourself, or take it somewhere else if you think it's a better deal. Edit: just got a quote for an iphone 7+ battery replacement from one of the mall kiosks here: $120. If there is so much fat in the cost surely they'd at least undercut Apple by $20 to get the business. Removable batteries are a completely different conversation but you can still buy phones with them so go ahead and…
I bought a replacement battery kit for my non-Apple phone on ebay for about $AU15 - it came with tools to jimmy open the case and unscrew the housing.
Undoubtedly genuine Apple batteries may be better quality but that's still ~$100 for labour.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Like a car you're welcome to do it yourself, or take it somewhere else if you think it's a better deal. Edit: just got a quote for an iphone 7+ battery replacement from one of the mall kiosks here: $120. If there is so much fat in the cost surely they'd at least undercut Apple by $20 to get the business. Removable batteries are a completely different conversation but you can still buy phones with them so go ahead and…
I bought a replacement battery kit for my non-Apple phone on ebay for about $AU15 - it came with tools to jimmy open the case and unscrew the housing. Undoubtedly genuine Apple batteries may be better quality but that's still ~$100 for labour.
I mean I know this is supposed to be a hacker community and all, but there is no way I'd bother. Housemate did his girlfriend's iPhone 5 and just ruined it.
You're not only paying for the labour, but also a guarantee the phone will work as intended after and warranty on the replacement. $100 is cheap for that.
Re: Apple Confirms It Degrades Your Old iPhone
#27A co-work of mine sent me this article after his iPhone 6S slowed down considerably after installing iOS 11. He thought that his battery was defunct and causing the issue. I suggested he turn off the animations that are designed to run on the latest phones and are more processor intensive. (One other thing that will help, however, is to cut back on the transition animations in iOS 11. Go to Settings > General > Acces…
Turning off animations feels (to me) faster even on the same phone and OS version. Probably a false sense.
Perception...
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#28I see no situation where slowing phone‘s performance is better compared to giving the user options to improve phone’s performance. Something is fishy.
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#29I just wish they'd been more transparent - perhaps a message in the battery section of settings saying "your performance may be impacted because of your degraded battery. It's recommended you replace it" or something. New batteries are $119AU which I think is a reasonable price to pay after two years or so. Everyone knows components in cars need replacing, including batteries, so I think people can be reasoned with i…
119 for a $5 battery is not reasonable.
I paid $10 for my brand new Galaxy Note 4 battery and it took 30 seconds to replace. My note 4 isn't slow at all either.
It's the end of Moore's law and they are going to start pulling this stuff so you upgrade, because the new phones just aren't that much better. Meanwhile, I'll stick to Note 4s still they stop making them and I can't get them used. Perfect phone, imho.
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#30Let's cut into Apple's bullshit. LiOn ageing is not unique to Apple. The problem is that their batteries are so horribly low powered (1800 mAh for iPhone 6s), especially for the price of the overall phone, that normal known ageing patterns would render the battery below spec of max power the iPhone draws at peak performance. It's BAD design. Note 8 ships with 3300mah and iPhone X with 2700mah. Both cost a $1000. Which one do you think will last longer if 2500mah were the max power threshold?