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Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by Buldak »

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #4

"Content that glorifies violence or the perpetrators of a violent act. This includes celebrating any violent act in a manner that may inspire others to replicate it" Does this apply to videos of NFL tackles? Videos of NFL tackles glorify violence and glorify the tackler (the perpetrator of a violent act).

I doubt that sports glorify violence in the relevant sense. In particular, I doubt that people who get excited about the NFL or MMA or whatever are inspired to go out and hurt people in real life.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by RcouF1uZ4gsC »

robbrown451 wrote: post #17
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #4

"Content that glorifies violence or the perpetrators of a violent act. This includes celebrating any violent act in a manner that may inspire others to replicate it" Does this apply to videos of NFL tackles? Videos of NFL tackles glorify violence and glorify the tackler (the perpetrator of a violent act).

Pretty sure the common definition of "violence" excludes such things.

You mean it's not violence to hit somebody with your body so hard they fall to the ground and can result in bone and ligament injuries, or even brain injuries with permanent neurological issues?

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by revmoo »

YuriGrinshteyn wrote: post #13
junkscience2017 wrote: post #9

Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Right-Wing Conduct and Conservative Behavior (blog.twitter.com)

If conservatives and the right wing are so worried about Nazi bans impacting them, they should perhaps stop being so much like Nazis as to make distinguishing between the two so difficult.

Everybody you disagree with is not a nazi buddy

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by junkscience2017 »

YuriGrinshteyn wrote: post #13
junkscience2017 wrote: post #9

Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Right-Wing Conduct and Conservative Behavior (blog.twitter.com)

If conservatives and the right wing are so worried about Nazi bans impacting them, they should perhaps stop being so much like Nazis as to make distinguishing between the two so difficult.

By forcing an equivalence with Nazism, you have proven my point, happy tweeting.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by 21 »

YuriGrinshteyn wrote: post #13
junkscience2017 wrote: post #9

Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Right-Wing Conduct and Conservative Behavior (blog.twitter.com)

If conservatives and the right wing are so worried about Nazi bans impacting them, they should perhaps stop being so much like Nazis as to make distinguishing between the two so difficult.

> Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes.

Do you think twitter should ban antifa accounts because they are affiliated with an org which promotes violence against individuals?

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by 21 »

cryptoz wrote: post #14
minimaxir wrote: post #6

Specifically, there's a this policy does not apply to military or government entities loophole to these new rules, which many believe to be a workaround for these rules not applying to Trump.

Yeah, this is absolute doublespeak. Twitter's not 'enforcing' anything, and as others have pointed out, they are actually making the situation worse. Now it's clear that even Twitter says if you're rich and famous you can be abusive without the same consequences as someone who is not wealthy. Ridiculous. Nobody has ever held Trump accountable for anything. Hilariously, Twitter holds a lot of power over Trump due to c…

> Nobody has ever held Trump accountable for anything. Hilariously, Twitter holds a lot of power over Trump due to controlling his popular account. They could hold him accountable. They choose not to. Insane.

Trump is the elected president of USA, one of the most important country on Earth. The fact that you suggest a private company should police his speak is insane to me.

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by lallysingh »

waterphone wrote: post #10
isopod wrote: post #5

The proof will be if these rules ever apply to Trump or not.

> This policy does not apply to military or government entities

Trump's the cause of half of their readers at this point. They're not getting rid of that, just the uglier (and less likely to bring in advertiser dollars) parts of their userbase. (Note: I have no data to back this up).

Re: Enforcing New Rules to Reduce Hateful Conduct and Abusive Behavior

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Post by Spivak »

This is going to be fun.

> Accounts that affiliate with organizations that use or promote violence against civilians

> Content that glorifies violence or the perpetrators of a violent act.

* "Support our troops"

* "Punch a Nazi"

* Basically any enthusiastic history account.

* Mall ninjas.

* Any action movie/tv property.

* Star Wars.

* UFC

It seems almost puritan to try and deny humanity's love of violence.

> If an account’s profile information includes a violent threat or multiple slurs, epithets, racist or sexist tropes, incites fear, or reduces someone to less than human, it will be permanently suspended.

* A little confused about the 'multiple' requirement. So long as you only hate one thing your good?

* Racist or sexist tropes is a bit hard to pin down. /r/bpt is full of examples of 'racist' tropes that are self-deprecating. I'm not the best at words but they probably want an exception for "laughing with you, not at you."

> intimidates, or uses fear to silence another person’s voice

I can't wait for this to not be applied against people who use public shaming as a silencing tactic.

Also, there's a bit on irony that in that policy is itself a silencing tactic. This is going to cause people afraid of being banned to self-censor because a statement is politically unpopular.

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