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Re: Bottled Water

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Post by MichaelSalib »

electromagnetic wrote: post #20
MichaelSalib wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Water Jug coolers simply don't cut it, even filled with ice cubes you'll only get until noon. I freeze 3 bottles of water, use ice packs and still my water can start getting warm on a hot sunny day. I don't understand this at all. Why can't you freeze a bunch of reusable bottles with tap water? Are you saying that the thermal properties of tap water differ significantly from those of bottled water? it doesn't even co…

To the latter; the water is independently tested by a government agency, and as I said the mineral contents (including heavy metals) is posted on the label. To the former, as you obviously read enough of my comment, I stated I fill the bottles on average 4 times a week (new bottles monday used until friday) with filtered water. Tap water here tastes disgusting and has huge amounts of chlorine, and in areas the munici…

the mineral contents (including heavy metals) is posted on the label.

Interesting. I didn't know that the Canadian government is responsible for claims made on label packaging.

Tap water here tastes disgusting and has huge amounts of chlorine, and in areas the municipal and house lines contain lead or are made of lead.

Ah, thanks for explaining. Your comment was filled with so much unnecessary detail that I failed to connect the dots. I imagine that you could replace most of it with just this sentence.

Re: Bottled Water

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Post by JshWright »

evgen wrote: post #9
teilo wrote: post #2

What this infographic fails to mention is that almost all the bottled water starting its life as municipal water has been filtered via reverse osmosis, and processed via UV and ozone during the bottling. What does this gain you? The main advantage is that you remove the fluoride. America is insane for fluoridating her water supply. Intentionally adding poison to the water, using dental care as the excuse. Sorry, but…

Anything is poisonous/toxic given the right conditions and dosage. Under the right conditions I can kill you using pure O2. The only thing that is "stupid" is clinging to silly good chemical/bad chemical dichotomies without taking context and dosage into consideration. Low-dosage flouride in a water supply has been shown over and over again in epidemiological studies to reduce the incidence of oral cavities from 15-4…

Please elaborate on how you would make pure O2 toxic...

Re: Bottled Water

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Post by [deleted] »

jcnnghm wrote: post #16

These infographics never seem to be created by people with hard water or well water. Life does exist outside of San Fransico, and even with a water treatment system, water can taste bad. Sometimes people take action for reasons you don't understand.

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Re: Bottled Water

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Post by wooster »

electromagnetic wrote: post #14

I work outside in 40C heat, in the sun for 8-10 hours a day; municipal water doesn't cut it for me. I've drank over 4 liters of water inside of an 8 hour period and have still needed to drink a minimum of a 1L gatorade to get hydrated enough to actually urinate. (Note: we're recommended to drink 1.2 liters in a day, and I can get through 5 liters in 1/3, it's advised to drink no more than 1 liter per hour* of heavy e…

  I work outside in 40C heat, in the sun for 8-10 hours a day;
The record high temperature in Hamilton is 38.8C, and the average high during the summer is 27.3C.

  I'm sorry, I'm not comfortable with the idea of drinking or even 
  showering in leaded water. Despite lead absorption through skin 
  being rare, I think when it's covering your entire body it's 
  present at some rate.
Then either filter your well water (the municipal water is fine):

http://www.hamilton.ca/HealthandSocialServices/PublicHealth/...

Or replace the lead pipes in your building:

http://www.hamilton.ca/CityDepartments/PublicWorks/WaterAndW...

Re: Bottled Water

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Post by wooster »

JshWright wrote: post #22
evgen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything is poisonous/toxic given the right conditions and dosage. Under the right conditions I can kill you using pure O2. The only thing that is "stupid" is clinging to silly good chemical/bad chemical dichotomies without taking context and dosage into consideration. Low-dosage flouride in a water supply has been shown over and over again in epidemiological studies to reduce the incidence of oral cavities from 15-4…

Please elaborate on how you would make pure O2 toxic...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity

Re: Bottled Water

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Post by MichaelSalib »

MC27 wrote: post #17

I've never understood why people dislike bottled water, yet seem to ignore soft drinks. Soft drinks are packed with sugar, acid, colourings, synthetic sugars, flavourings; while a bottle of water is a healthy alternative. Granted, people should be more prepared and purchase a reusable bottle for water, but soft drinks should be the target for these things.

Because most homes don't have a tap that dispenses soft drinks for basically nothing?

Another reason is that soft drink bottlers in the US don't claim that they're using "natural" spring water when they're just using municipal water supplies. That lack of deception might explain some of the difference.

Finally, some of the bottled water hatred is specifically focused on Fiji water. Soft drinks tend to be bottled locally whereas Fiji water is shipped to the US from an island in the Pacific controlled by a dictatorial regime. The idea of shipping water across the planet because idiots are easily seduced by a glossy marketing campaign rankles some.

Re: Bottled Water

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Post by jsz0 »

I have a Brita at home but on the go I buy bottled water. I don't see it as any less harmful than other bottled beverages so I can only guess that the environmentalist fringe is opposed to consumption of all bottled beverages. I don't know why they can't target more realistic goals. Making people feel bad about satisfying the basic human need of hydration is really stupid. There are better things to focus on.

Re: Bottled Water

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Post by MC27 »

MichaelSalib wrote: post #27
MC27 wrote: post #17

I've never understood why people dislike bottled water, yet seem to ignore soft drinks. Soft drinks are packed with sugar, acid, colourings, synthetic sugars, flavourings; while a bottle of water is a healthy alternative. Granted, people should be more prepared and purchase a reusable bottle for water, but soft drinks should be the target for these things.

Because most homes don't have a tap that dispenses soft drinks for basically nothing? Another reason is that soft drink bottlers in the US don't claim that they're using "natural" spring water when they're just using municipal water supplies. That lack of deception might explain some of the difference. Finally, some of the bottled water hatred is specifically focused on Fiji water. Soft drinks tend to be bottled loca…

I was more comparing it as a drink that you would consume away from home, going into a shop and choosing between a myriad of soft drinks and water products. Although I do see your point.

Coca-cola tried that municipal/tap water scam in the UK, but ended up having their product pulled from the shelves because it was contaminated with bromate. After that happened, they completely pulled the brand from the UK.

There's the other side of the local argument. Soft drink manufacturers tend to source the water locally, so you get reports of bottling plants competing with local farmers by draining water from aquifers in poor countries.

Anyway, I agree with all you have said, but I still think soft drinks are the worse of the two. They screw up peoples' health.

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