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Re: Decentralized social media, and the fragmentation of control

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Post by lucideer » Wed, Dec 13, 2017, 11:21 PM UTC

s73ver_ wrote: post #12

lucideer wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your first point on Twitter's appeal is valid, but I don't think this is necessarily restricted to centralised systems. Discoverability is something decentralised networks struggle with - look at the role the very centralised (albeit endlessly mirrored) pirate bay plays, despite efforts like btdigg - but I think it's very solvable. Somehow. With some effort and ingenuity. On your second point, the IRC comparison make…

Saying that Slack and Reddit don't compare because they're "locked in" really misses the point that most users don't care about that.

Users care about lock-in. The fact they may not seem to care at the adoption point is more a case of lock-in, by design, being relatively opaque for most users, but they care when restrictions become apparent. Of course the nature of lock-in is that that's too late.

Re: Decentralized social media, and the fragmentation of control

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Post by zaarn » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 9:24 AM UTC

s73ver_ wrote: post #13

gobengo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there are some awesome mastodon communities that have moved off twitter because they are trolled too frequently on there, and aren't empowered to make their own rules to prevent that. If you're discussing somethign PTSD-inducing, for example, this struggle is so real and hard. There are communities, for example, that block other communities that are 'freespeechers'. i.e. communities that don't ban people for sayign t…

How well has that worked to combat harassment?

Pretty well in my experience.

If a particular instance is harassing you, ask your admin to do something about it, they will ask the other instance to stop and if that doesn't work, block the entire instance.

Additionally, you can set your profile to locked so people cannot follow you without permission.

Re: Decentralized social media, and the fragmentation of control

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Post by zaarn » Thu, Dec 14, 2017, 9:27 AM UTC

egypturnash wrote: post #18

From the article: > With around 100,000 users on mastodon.social — the biggest instance — it is just 0.03% the size of Twitter, and only growing at a rate of 1,000 users per week. > To give you an idea of the scale compared to Twitter: Mastodon is 13 months old and at that same age, Twitter was around 10 times bigger. The Mastodon Monitoring Project ( https://mnm.social ) estimates 1,019,544 accounts across the nearl…

Most of those are probably Japanese accounts, which while still being real accounts, isn't comfortable with the Twitter crowd due to the kind of media usually shared on the japanese instances (the kind of content which is illegal in the US and most of the rest of the world but totally fine in Japan, which is another reason for Mastodon tbh)