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Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by huac »

flukus wrote: post #13
ssivark wrote: post #6

I wonder about the point of torturing a minimalist text editor with no graphics support (such as Vim into a comprehensive development and visualization enviromment, by invoking several plugins and some very specific workflows. Would it not make more sense to take the interface (modal editing, etc) and wrap it into module that can be easily embedded into several different IDEs, to handle text-specific tasks? That way,…

Alternately, would it make sense in R to separate the code and the result instead of a WYSIWYG approach? This is how many work with tools like latex/pdf (among others), edit the source in vim and have a viewer window open next to it.

That's (sort of) how RMarkdown works.

Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by hatmatrix »

ssivark wrote: post #6

I wonder about the point of torturing a minimalist text editor with no graphics support (such as Vim into a comprehensive development and visualization enviromment, by invoking several plugins and some very specific workflows. Would it not make more sense to take the interface (modal editing, etc) and wrap it into module that can be easily embedded into several different IDEs, to handle text-specific tasks? That way,…

Can not Spacemacs + ESS fill the gap?

Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by j7ake »

The argument of "why not use R studio" was not at all convincing for me.

R studio already has vim key bindings, so trying to make vim into rstudio-like seems like spending time on the wrong problem. As in, even if you succeed beyond your wildest dreams you're still not going to compete with R studio.

Things that make Rstudio great that is not so easy to implement include the knitR integration and Rmarkdown integration and embedded graphs and most importantly Rstudio server.

Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by petepete »

thalesmello wrote: post #5

As much as I love Vim and R, I think the experience is pointless without embedded graphs. It would be perfect if it was possible to view a graph in a Vim split.

Could Tektronix emulation somehow be used for this? Then you could, in theory, display graphs in a vim/tmux split

http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/~schaft/mxterm/pictures/tek.gif

Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by kqr »

ssivark wrote: post #6

I wonder about the point of torturing a minimalist text editor with no graphics support (such as Vim into a comprehensive development and visualization enviromment, by invoking several plugins and some very specific workflows. Would it not make more sense to take the interface (modal editing, etc) and wrap it into module that can be easily embedded into several different IDEs, to handle text-specific tasks? That way,…

> Would it not make more sense to take the interface (modal editing, etc) and wrap it into module that can be easily embedded into several different IDEs, to handle text-specific tasks?

Absolutely would. The issue is that this is (evidently) a surprisingly hard problem. I say evidently because I dont know /why/ it is so hard, only that extremely few people have succeeded.

Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by kqr »

hatmatrix wrote: post #22
ssivark wrote: post #6

I wonder about the point of torturing a minimalist text editor with no graphics support (such as Vim into a comprehensive development and visualization enviromment, by invoking several plugins and some very specific workflows. Would it not make more sense to take the interface (modal editing, etc) and wrap it into module that can be easily embedded into several different IDEs, to handle text-specific tasks? That way,…

Can not Spacemacs + ESS fill the gap?

Or just Emacs in general. Emacs is practically a platform where you pick both language support and UI paradigm as plugins, rather than limiting yourself to one (Vim) or the other (regular IDE).

Re: Turning Vim into an R IDE

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Post by baldfat »

beigebrucewayne wrote: post #20
baldfat wrote: post #9

> Why Not RStudio? > Yes, I know RStudio has Vim keybindings, but it isn’t the real thing. At this point, I’m ruined by Vim. I say the next step is that we have NeoVim running inside of RStudio. I also think we will have that happening in VSCode a mind bending text editor inside of a text editor.

https://github.com/Chillee/VSCodeNeovim

I'm talking about the offical VSCode team's Vim extension.

https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim#neovim-integration

"We now have neovim integration for Ex-commands. To enable,..."

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