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State of Startups 2017 Survey Results

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Re: State of Startups 2017 Survey Results

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Wait, why are autonomous vehicles not AI anymore?

The general rule is: Nothing is called AI anymore once it works.

Like with magic tricks, once we know how it works it seems a lot less impressive. So we stop calling it AI. When you think about it, everything computers do could be considered AI.

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Since 3 out of 9 are about sexual harassment and one is about politics, I was hoping to get your thoughts. These days, people feel increasingly under fire. We have to watch what we say, what we do, who we offend, what our political affiliations are, and whether we are crossing any lines. A little anecdote: I was hacking away on a couch in a mall, and a couple of techies came up to me doing a user study. They asked me…

We have gone way past 'innocent until proven guilty'. If it is in any way profitable to take you down (promotion/fame/facebook likes) avoid contact with anyone except in the most professional setting with a lot of witnesses. And it does not even have to be malice: a simple misunderstanding will do. After 20 years of the Daily Show/Colbert/the Internet people are more primed than ever to notice a "problematic" look, c…

Didn't get the reference of Daily show and Colbert there. Care to elaborate?

Re: State of Startups 2017 Survey Results

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Since 3 out of 9 are about sexual harassment and one is about politics, I was hoping to get your thoughts. These days, people feel increasingly under fire. We have to watch what we say, what we do, who we offend, what our political affiliations are, and whether we are crossing any lines. A little anecdote: I was hacking away on a couch in a mall, and a couple of techies came up to me doing a user study. They asked me…

These days, people feel increasingly under fire. We have to watch what we say, what we do, who we offend, what our political affiliations are, and whether we are crossing any lines.

For everyone else but white men, that was always the case.

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Since 3 out of 9 are about sexual harassment and one is about politics, I was hoping to get your thoughts. These days, people feel increasingly under fire. We have to watch what we say, what we do, who we offend, what our political affiliations are, and whether we are crossing any lines. A little anecdote: I was hacking away on a couch in a mall, and a couple of techies came up to me doing a user study. They asked me…

The article on drupal controversy somehow misses last drupal association statement - the one written after investigations were over: https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/drupal-association-a...

Their lawyers believed there is legal and ethical risks to the Drupal project and investigation was under way. it is quite clear that situation was solved badly and their communication muddled. However, the girlfriend being muted, autistic and unable to communicate with people does complicate the legal issues and their perception. Framing this as simple case of participating in BDSM is disingenuous. Her inability to say "yes I want to be slave and enjoy being punished by him on the whim when I disobey" (the basis of Gorean lifestyle) was big contributor to the issues and to perception.

It gets constantly framed as if it would be BDSM as in hobby confined to privacy of bed, because that is how Garfield liked to frame issues on his blog while investigations were on the way.

Nevertheless, someone doing BDSM in privacy of his bed (majority of BDSM is not public) and with participants able to talk is not nearly the same situation.

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Your felt your idea wasn't taken seriously in a discussion? You felt you unintentionally became defensive and awkward in some social situations? Congratulations, you just experienced some of the most universal feelings being a woman in our current society. This talk about "can't I flirt anymore?" and similar is just sad. Boohoo, of course you can flirt, but being socially awkward/stupid while doing it is what you can…

I'm not feeling sorry for myself. I do take women seriously, and one of my closest friends is also a badass dev who happens to be female. She confided in me one day that feminism originally started out with the central idea that equality is for both women and men, and everyone else. But it has morphed, and it's feeling like people are simply gleeful whenever they hear stories of men whose lives have been ruined or wh…

> We can't flirt in a professional setting anymore. Not without risking our jobs.

Flirting and harassment are not the same. The meetoo stories I read were nowhere near grey zone. They were not consensual. I am sure there might be some, but I did not encountered them and they were not prominent. Funny how revelations of assault and stories about how female careers were stopped due to it got redefined as "flirting" on this forum.

However, frankly, if true, nothing of value is lost. Flirting in workplace is exactly the same waste of time as gossiping at workplace or any other way of wasting time. If women showing pictures of her kids over lunch means she is perceived as unserious and less concerned with work, then man trying to get dates on-the-clock should be too. (Random example.)

Also, your friend does not know much about history of feminism. Not sure what her being good developer has to do with topic of flirting or harassment.

Re: State of Startups 2017 Survey Results

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post #22

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We have gone way past 'innocent until proven guilty'. If it is in any way profitable to take you down (promotion/fame/facebook likes) avoid contact with anyone except in the most professional setting with a lot of witnesses. And it does not even have to be malice: a simple misunderstanding will do. After 20 years of the Daily Show/Colbert/the Internet people are more primed than ever to notice a "problematic" look, c…

Didn't get the reference of Daily show and Colbert there. Care to elaborate?

These types of shows were based on showing short clips of someone saying something, then cutting back to Stewart with a shocked face.

Reminds me of this comment on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11104428 The poster does not know Fry, the award winner or their relationship but the first thing that comes to mind is shock: How could he say such a thing when we can interpret it in the worst possible way.

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>When ideas can't be discussed, pressure builds. Sexual harassment is not an idea, it's a form of assault.

Larry was axed because people were afraid he was assaulting someone. They were wrong about that. But he lost all his leadership roles anyway.

Who is Larry?

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> I was surprised to feel relieved that she didn't actually text me. Why?

It was a spur of the moment thing. I just didn't like feeling like I was asking for her number when it was only about the product. Obviously, this is a dumb way to feel. But from what I've heard on HN and other places, this type of thing is starting to become more common. Men are starting to take precautions like never having a one on one meeting alone with a female coworker. How much worry is the correct amount of w…

What is a mistake, in your mind?

Re: State of Startups 2017 Survey Results

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post #24

Since 3 out of 9 are about sexual harassment and one is about politics, I was hoping to get your thoughts. These days, people feel increasingly under fire. We have to watch what we say, what we do, who we offend, what our political affiliations are, and whether we are crossing any lines. A little anecdote: I was hacking away on a couch in a mall, and a couple of techies came up to me doing a user study. They asked me…

The article on drupal controversy somehow misses last drupal association statement - the one written after investigations were over: https://www.drupal.org/association/blog/drupal-association-a... Their lawyers believed there is legal and ethical risks to the Drupal project and investigation was under way. it is quite clear that situation was solved badly and their communication muddled. However, the girlfriend being…

I'm glad you brought up that article, because it illustrates that two consenting adults were participating in their own life choices -- choices which we as a community feel obliged to be inclusive of, no matter how much they offend us or make us uncomfortable; the essence of tolerance -- and yet once Larry was cleared of wrongdoing, he wasn't reinstated. In fact, he was asked to resign before the investigation was even completed.
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