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Re: American Equity

#21
> I think that every adult US citizen should get an annual share of the US GDP.

> I believe that a new social contract like what I’m suggesting here—where we agree to a floor and no ceiling

So like...basic income but with limited downside and unlimited upside all the while ignoring income inequality? And Who decides on the payment based on "social contracts"?

Re: American Equity

#23
A better thing to do would be to campaign the SEC to remove the accredited investor regulation so that we can choose what we want to invest in, instead of forcing us all into this America bucket while the rich and connected get first pick on every opportunity.

I'm tired of sitting back and seeing companies that I liked but couldn't invest in become > 500m market cap successes. If I spent 4 years at one of these companies I could get _common_ stock, but I can't spend 1k to buy some preferred stock.

The whole startup system is rigged. People are going to start realizing it.

Re: American Equity

#24

People already have a share in the GDP. That's what it is, the total domestic product, the sum of all the little parts. The problem is not that people don't have share in it (and this goes for every country, not just for the USA), but that they have a disproportionate share in it. Bill Gates' (to name a random American citizen) has a far larger share in the GDP than most other Americans. If you want to solve that rai…

The problem literally is that many people don't have an adequate share of the GDP.

The footnote proposes to tax capital the same as labor.

An interesting thing about Bill Gates is what a tiny sliver of GDP he managed to capture over almost 40 years. Something like $0.1 trillion out of several hundred trillion dollars.

Re: American Equity

#25
American Equity already exists is the US Dollar currency, the problem is that the Government is always issuing new stock certificates thereby diluting the value of stockholders.

Re: American Equity

#26
post #11

He could start with his companies giving out a much larger share of equity to their employees. I always find it fascinating when VCs advocate for things like UBI or this American Equity plan while at the same time being a major contributor to income equality. They could do a lot right now bit instead they make some vague proposals while keeping their money.

This proposal seems like the equivalent of a failing startup diluting the crap out of its employee pool to raise a gigantic round.

Re: American Equity

#27
post #9

Meta question: if this essay about "American Equity" is another way of proposing "universal basic income" , why is there circumlocution around UBI? Possibilities are "UBI" has been poisoned with negative connotations can you can't talk about it anymore. That's possible but it seems like the overwhelming sentiment on HN and reddit is massive support for it. As far as I can tell, "UBI" doesn't have negative connotation…

For one thing, it allows the branding to focus around Altman’s specific idea instead of the wide variety of UBI ideas. I think it would make a program more defensible if it had a new name, so that the proponents of that program only have that program’s ideas to defend and not the giant flank of every UBI implementation ever proposed, all lumped together by a common name.

Re: American Equity

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post #20

People already have a share in the GDP. That's what it is, the total domestic product, the sum of all the little parts. The problem is not that people don't have share in it (and this goes for every country, not just for the USA), but that they have a disproportionate share in it. Bill Gates' (to name a random American citizen) has a far larger share in the GDP than most other Americans. If you want to solve that rai…

> Bill Gates' (to name a random American citizen) has a far larger share in the GDP than most other Americans. If you want to solve that raise your taxes on the rich and lift up those that are at the lowest end of the scale. That will have a lot more effect than some fiction where you get to do a bunch of make-believe bookkeeping. Or go a step further do what nobody has the balls to do: tax wealth That's what all the…

>do what nobody has the balls to do: tax wealth

Just to clarify, nobody in the US is doing this, but it's not unheard of elsewhere. For example, Norway has a wealth tax of about 0.85% and there are some other examples at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax#Current_examples .

Re: American Equity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bill Gates' (to name a random American citizen) has a far larger share in the GDP than most other Americans. If you want to solve that raise your taxes on the rich and lift up those that are at the lowest end of the scale. That will have a lot more effect than some fiction where you get to do a bunch of make-believe bookkeeping. Or go a step further do what nobody has the balls to do: tax wealth That's what all the…

>do what nobody has the balls to do: tax wealth Just to clarify, nobody in the US is doing this, but it's not unheard of elsewhere. For example, Norway has a wealth tax of about 0.85% and there are some other examples at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_tax#Current_examples .

We tax real property, which is a form of wealth taxation.
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