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What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m guessing you aren’t Filipino, Indian or Vietnamese.

Three nations that have suffered immeasurably more at the hands of the West than of China?

How do you get "immeasurably more"? The West has been meddling in these countries for maybe a century. China has been doing it for millennia.

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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post #15

If the aliens are strong enough to land their spaceship on earth, investigating all countries is probably a piece of cake for them. There is no reason for them to tie themselves to a certain country or area. In another case, if they establish communication with a certain country/organization, but they cannot arrive, and somehow can only communicate with that certain country/organization, then it could be a different…

>>If the aliens are strong enough to land their spaceship on earth, investigating all countries is probably a piece of cake for them. What if it's just a scout/science vessel?

It depends on how big the gap between the power of aliens and earthlings is.

Some people believe that science advances should progress like explosion, and "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic". In this case the possibility of aliens being at the similar level with us is small.

But I think you have a point. Sometimes I doubt the speed of science advances. Maybe the aliens are not so far away from us and their astronautics is not much stronger than our level. They don't look like magicians. In this case things can be boring, may be just an age of discoveries for the aliens.

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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post #14

First contact is a species event, I really don't think it matters who makes it first. My reasoning is derived from a though experiment (happy to explain, but it should be obvious), which is all we have to go on this stuff. Long story short: it's highly probable that a species wouldn't care about our primitive political systems when engaging with us. It would most likely be a philanthropic event - which is a strong in…

You and most other people here assume it would be a planned, organized event. Maybe it's rather one weirdo talking to another weirdo.

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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— “But perhaps tomorrow we’ll wake up and find an alien spaceship the size of the Moon parked in orbit.” — I am sure the Pentagon and NASA have a plan if a "moon-sized" object with a deliberate orbit suddenly appeared in the night sky or was detected by a space telescope or an amateur astronomer using Mars as a gravity boost. What would be more amusing if they were coming here to live underwater.

> I am sure the Pentagon and NASA have a plan... The plan probably is about communication channels and who decides what, and what not to do, more than what to do. Regardless of the content, I'm very sure it's not going to be followed, even if it did exist.

That plan better have an up-to-date phone number for Mr Freeman.

Thinking about this, sending a celebrity rather than a politician/religious/military is probably a good idea.

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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post #2

— “But perhaps tomorrow we’ll wake up and find an alien spaceship the size of the Moon parked in orbit.” — I am sure the Pentagon and NASA have a plan if a "moon-sized" object with a deliberate orbit suddenly appeared in the night sky or was detected by a space telescope or an amateur astronomer using Mars as a gravity boost. What would be more amusing if they were coming here to live underwater.

"The moon is an alien spaceship." - Hollow Moon Theory

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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If the aliens want us to know they are there, it won't be because we have a specialized radio dish to receive their transmissions -- it's unlikely that we'd be able to distinguish their regular communications from noise. In another 50-100 years, the earth will likely stop transmitting the kind of high power, trivially modulated signals that we're looking for, which leaves a very small window of opportunity to detect other alien species.

It'd be like Marconi trying to decipher a modern spread-spectrum encrypted RF datastream.

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

correct. every empire has its victims. the question posed by the OP's article was why not the chinese empire rather than the anglo-american empire as a point of first contact. in all honesty, i trust the chinese not to fuck up first contact more with a bellicose message, especially given the west's political incapacitation /fall to fascism

> in all honesty, i trust the chinese not to fuck up first contact more with a bellicose message, especially given the west's political incapacitation /fall to fascism The Chinese have never stopped being routinely bellicose during the CPC era. They annexed Tibet through violence. They're desperate to annex a successful, independent nation - Taiwan - that wants absolutely nothing to do with that. They're willing to u…

Why do people have to compare body counts of communist and fascist systems. Yes, I know many if not most people underestimate/do not know the "cost" in lives of Soviet and Chinese communism, but it just seems... wrong to compare how many more millions each one killed than the other.

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One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. (Sorry for butchering the quote)

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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post #9

Is the octahedron on the picture supposed to be an alien spaceship? It reminds me of a creature in a certain animation I watched.

I thought the same – I actually liked the illustration so much I bought a print of it. This is the artist's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/harriorrihar/

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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I think US would be the country for "first contact", then Russia. Most of our planet is water. US has the biggest/best Navy & intelligence systems. And also pretty aggressive spirit. Russia has 1/6 (IIRC) of our planet's land mass and also a very stubborn spirit. So my uneducated guess is ET is going to be chatting with either Trump or Putin. ...God help us...

I think Chile would be the first country for "first contact".

Why? it's an elaborate pun in their alien language and the alien bureaucrat in charge of that decision really loves puns.

Re: What Happens If China Makes First Contact?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m guessing you aren’t Filipino, Indian or Vietnamese.

Three nations that have suffered immeasurably more at the hands of the West than of China?

Even during the wars with the French and Americans, the Vietnamese were quite wary of China. They knew the westerners would leave, but China would always threaten them.
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