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Vim plugins and config walkthrough

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Re: Vim plugins and config walkthrough

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The problem of these kind of articles is that it shows to people who are unfamiliar with vim how hard is it to use it, and how many plugins you need to make it usable. But I think that most people who use vim everyday just started with the most basic vim during several months and then they added one plugin, then two, then three. But plugins are not mandatory in vim, and you don't need to remember all the shorcuts eit…

But vim is really not that hard to use. The initial learning curve might be steep, but as a whole vim is in general easy to use once you 'grok' it.

Anyways I do agree with you on one thing, this articles convey the idea that vim requires plugins and magic to be usable, which in my opinion is a disservice. People get on the bandwagon and install 50 plugins and then complain that vim is unusable when sshing into a server because it doesn't have the plugins they use.

Re: Vim plugins and config walkthrough

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Well, in every blogpost about a editor or IDE there's gotta be someone who starts a flamewar. It's my turn I guess. I am a diehard Vimmer. I use Vi bindings system-wide. I've been using Vim for many years. Yet one day I woke up and I realized - Emacs is better Vim than Vim. Vimmers, if you think I'm trolling, try Spacemacs for yourselves. I guarantee - you'd be amazed.

I'm sorry, but that's not objective. Some people may prefer emacs, others may prefer vim, others may prefer notepad++ or intellij. And by saying things like this or responding them, you're just feeding the fire. Just let people use what they want.

I'm not trying to persuade people to stay in Spacemacs. I'm asking to try it. It has some nice ideas that I would've definitely tried to re-implement in Vim myself, if I would've chosen not to stay.

Re: Vim plugins and config walkthrough

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I really want to use/like Vim. Sounds like I'm going to say it not great, but actually this might be a call for help... I have used Vim for a couple years I think, maybe more now and learned enough to write my own vimrc file from scratch, understanding all the parts I'm adding, what they do and why and sync it via version control etc etc. I use it on every server I administer/whenever I use the terminal. I've added m…

I've done some research, as I have the same interest. I know that `neovim` allows clicks on non-tab elements -- I think something akin to `vim-wintabs` and `neovim` might get what you want.
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