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Excellent news. I dropped Uber because of how they run their business. My experience with Lyft in US cities has been excellent. Uber could use some competition in Toronto as well (outside of our generally terrible taxis).
About time. While Uber is available in almost every major city around the world, Lyft has been US only. I wonder why Lyft is so far behind. Is it just a matter of investment capital?
I believe it is because they are hesitant to blatantly disregard local laws - it's part of their brand persona, they try to be seen as the "nicer uber" - hence they try to play nice with the jurisdictions they expand to, resulting in slower expansion. https://a16z.com/2017/09/25/government-relations-local-lyft/
Lyft was the first company to operate in Miami, and Miami was the first market where drivers could face criminal charges. Uber avoided operating in Miami for this very reason and when it saw inaction in enforcement, they informed the Miami government that they would also enter the market if they continue to not enforce the law. I don't know about you, but putting drivers in a position where they could face criminal charges and jail time is far worse than anything I've seen Uber do. With civil liabilities, these companies can support the drivers with legal help, but with criminal liabilities, neither company can offer their drivers a get-out-of-jail free card.
The idea that one company is more ethical than the other is a farce.
I've noticed that Uber seems to have much more competitive pricing in markets (especially airports) where Lyft is also present, compared to markets where they are the only provider. So personally I would welcome Lyft's rapid international expansion.
That's because in general Uber is selling at a loss in those markets to try to drive Lyft out of business. Hence why they're burning through cash like an 18 year-old lottery winner. It's unsustainable and hopefully Lyft can weather it.
Leaked financials show that Lyft is selling at a far greater loss than Uber. Based on Q2 leaked figures, Uber's losses relative to gross bookings was -8% and Lyft's was 13.5%.
Can't wait. I've used Uber frequently for a long time, but every other story in the news about them is that their leadership are just terrible human beings. I don't want to deal with them as a company. Much like the drivers, I simply want what Uber is offering and have no loyalty to the company itself. If Lyft wants to come to Toronto and offer the same thing without being Uber, I'll gladly switch.
I would use Lyft or Uber in Toronto, whichever is convenient at that point of time. If you start to boycott companies which are not ethical in doing their business, well almost all companies are. Lets start with Amazon with their sweat shop warehouses, Garment manufacturing outsourced to workers in Bangladesh working in deadly conditions. No corporations are saints.
I really dislike this line of thinking. It's profoundly cynical and sees change as impossible.
Corporations do bad things. I can comment on that and refuse to do business with some of them and not others. I don't have to uproot my whole life and become a mountain ascetic to earn the moral purity necessary to acknowledge a single evil.
We can address one bad thing without addressing every bad thing at once.
About time. While Uber is available in almost every major city around the world, Lyft has been US only. I wonder why Lyft is so far behind. Is it just a matter of investment capital?
I believe it is because they are hesitant to blatantly disregard local laws - it's part of their brand persona, they try to be seen as the "nicer uber" - hence they try to play nice with the jurisdictions they expand to, resulting in slower expansion. https://a16z.com/2017/09/25/government-relations-local-lyft/
That said, given a choice b/w Uber and Lyft I most certainly choose Lyft every time.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's because in general Uber is selling at a loss in those markets to try to drive Lyft out of business. Hence why they're burning through cash like an 18 year-old lottery winner. It's unsustainable and hopefully Lyft can weather it.
> selling at a loss in those markets to try to drive Lyft out of business. Leaked financials show that Lyft is selling at a far greater loss than Uber. Based on Q2 leaked figures, Uber's losses relative to gross bookings was -8% and Lyft's was 13.5%.
Can't wait. I've used Uber frequently for a long time, but every other story in the news about them is that their leadership are just terrible human beings. I don't want to deal with them as a company. Much like the drivers, I simply want what Uber is offering and have no loyalty to the company itself. If Lyft wants to come to Toronto and offer the same thing without being Uber, I'll gladly switch.
I would use Lyft or Uber in Toronto, whichever is convenient at that point of time. If you start to boycott companies which are not ethical in doing their business, well almost all companies are. Lets start with Amazon with their sweat shop warehouses, Garment manufacturing outsourced to workers in Bangladesh working in deadly conditions. No corporations are saints.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it is because they are hesitant to blatantly disregard local laws - it's part of their brand persona, they try to be seen as the "nicer uber" - hence they try to play nice with the jurisdictions they expand to, resulting in slower expansion. https://a16z.com/2017/09/25/government-relations-local-lyft/
> I believe it is because they are hesitant to blatantly disregard local laws Lyft was the first company to operate in Miami, and Miami was the first market where drivers could face criminal charges. Uber avoided operating in Miami for this very reason and when it saw inaction in enforcement, they informed the Miami government that they would also enter the market if they continue to not enforce the law. I don't know…
Meh. I think I will continue to use Uber because from what I can tell, and what annoyingly no one seems to talk about in this conversation, is the difference in the services/experience. The user experience of taking a ride is not the same/not as seamless because you have to do all this payment/tip stuff at the end. Uber has always been a hail/get in/get out experience. No incentive to change to Lyft
I've never used Lyft but i think it works just like uber. this is what i found on their site
How Much Does a Lyft Ride Cost? Depends on where you’re headed and when. There is a base charge and a cost per mile and per minute, with extra added on when your pickup point is in Prime Time, which happens during higher-than-normal demand to encourage drivers to get on the road. For price estimates of rides in your city, check out the Lyft city page. Oh, and never worry about carrying cash — payment happens seamlessly through the app.