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Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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Unless he edited the post after you commented, I don’t quite agree with the comparison. He states “in the Apple world” as a qualifier to his history lesson. He doesn’t say “Apple invented multi core CPUs” or “Apple had multi core CPUs first”.

The only edit I've made so far was to correct a massive brain fart in my summary of the cluster means at the end. People just can't handle a focused post, apparently.

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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A significant part of the people that respond here seem to be offended by the lack of acknowledgement for the fact that Samsung had this before Apple had it. I find that a really interesting response from a psychological standpoint. Not the fact that the article could mention it although for the topic at hand it's not required, but just the fact that it actually is offensive to some people.

All I see is an Apple geek dissecting his new Apple toy and comparing it to his previous Apple toys and having a good time exploring it's capabilities. I wish I could read more stuff that goes a bit deeper like this.

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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> But he described the Apple ecosystem as if nothing outside it even exists. I did no such thing. I focused on Apple because my blog focuses on Apple, but at no point did I state or imply that nothing outside of Apple exists. I even went out of my way to say that multicore systems have "become the norm in many parts of the computing world."

Very little more predictable in technology than kneejerk reactions to anything involving Apple.

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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post #22

A significant part of the people that respond here seem to be offended by the lack of acknowledgement for the fact that Samsung had this before Apple had it. I find that a really interesting response from a psychological standpoint. Not the fact that the article could mention it although for the topic at hand it's not required, but just the fact that it actually is offensive to some people. All I see is an Apple geek…

I've always found this experiment to be revealing:

>Specifically, after explaining briefly that I was the editor of a tech news site, I would ask iPhone users “why do you use an iPhone?” and Android phone users “why do you use an Android phone?” My phone was always in my pocket when I asked, and I made sure to never mention a rival platform at all.

In about three months I ended up asking 219 different people this question, including 112 iPhone users and 107 Android users. I wasn’t terribly concerned with the features of each platform that people liked most. I just wanted to see how many people, unprovoked, would mention a rival platform in a negative way when offering their responses to a complete stranger.

http://bgr.com/2016/10/25/iphone-vs-android-survey-takeaways...

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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Is the author seriously so deep in the "Apple-is-the-world" bubble that he has not yet heard of BigLittle? In what way is the A11 different?

>Is the author seriously so deep in the "Apple-is-the-world" bubble that he has not yet heard of BigLittle? Why the rude comment?

Please mind that the rudeness is your interpretation. I was just astonished how it doesn't mention BigLittle at all. Not a single word.

On the other hand, he had enough time to go on a history lesson about multicore for PowerPC first introduced for Macs, which I found considerably less relevant, technically.

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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post #22

A significant part of the people that respond here seem to be offended by the lack of acknowledgement for the fact that Samsung had this before Apple had it. I find that a really interesting response from a psychological standpoint. Not the fact that the article could mention it although for the topic at hand it's not required, but just the fact that it actually is offensive to some people. All I see is an Apple geek…

I guess you consider me one of those offended, and let me assure you, I am not.

It is just weird if a technical presentation doesn't even mention the environment (lack of a better word) at all, but considers PowerPC multicore history for Mac relevant, which technically I consider not.

There are people out there, that don't consider technology or innovation to be Apple or other-vendor specific, heck, go ahead and stone me, I don't differentiate between Macs and PCs since Apple uses Intel CPUs.

Even further, I totally don't care who invented it.

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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post #22

A significant part of the people that respond here seem to be offended by the lack of acknowledgement for the fact that Samsung had this before Apple had it. I find that a really interesting response from a psychological standpoint. Not the fact that the article could mention it although for the topic at hand it's not required, but just the fact that it actually is offensive to some people. All I see is an Apple geek…

I've always found this experiment to be revealing: >Specifically, after explaining briefly that I was the editor of a tech news site, I would ask iPhone users “why do you use an iPhone?” and Android phone users “why do you use an Android phone?” My phone was always in my pocket when I asked, and I made sure to never mention a rival platform at all. In about three months I ended up asking 219 different people this que…

Thank you for sharing. Here's the tl;dr:

47% of Android users sampled (51 out of 107) « said things like “iPhone users are a cult,” “I hate Apple,” “only stupid people use iPhones,” or “I hate the iPhone” when explaining to me why they chose an Android device. Seriously, people actually used the word hate »

5% of iPhone users sampled (6 out of 112) « said something negative about Android or about a specific Android phone manufacturer. Not a single person make a negative blanket statement about Android users in general. »

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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This is a bad HN comment, not because you don't have anything solid to contribute (I'm sure you do), but because by choosing an uncharitable reading of the OP just in order to smack it down, you make the discussion less specific and substantive.

That's why we have this guideline: "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Observing the A11's Heterogenous Cores

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Is the author seriously so deep in the "Apple-is-the-world" bubble that he has not yet heard of BigLittle? Why the rude comment?

It's Apple. Gotta put those iSheep in their place, know what I mean?

Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or inflammatory comments to HN? You've done this quite a lot, and we eventually ban such accounts.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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