now we can properly have ides and desktops in VR.
but i'd would rather use a wider range of motion (at some point, if someone makes that) to input to stay active.
Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
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Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#22does this just display a keyboard in the field of view of the vive perspective? why do i need to see my keyboard if i know how to touch type?
strictly off-topic, but has anyone else noticed on the Yoga Book (the 'Halo' Keyboard') that they screen printed the physical locator nibs from the F and J onto the flat keyboard :)
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#23Combine this with the new Pimax, and infinite workspaces start to become a practical reality. Which could help propgate the technology more which would lead seamlessly into more teleconferences, which have a feeling of personal interactions... which is important, even if we as programmers don't always appreciate it. The other day I was playing a game of onward. It was the rare instance that a team wanted to work toge…
"I work from home full time, I think the biggest downside are the missing meaningful interactions with other people. I think VR has huge potential to bridge that gap." VR also has the potential to be way more addictive than current forms of online interaction and entertainment. I'm reminded of I think it was a Larry Niven story (maybe Ringworld ) in which the protagonist has an electrical wire put in to the pleasure…
It reminds me more of Ready Player One, a book in which society has deteriorated to the point where the only escape is a VR world.
The book briefly explores the implications of this, including how the hierarchy of human needs is met in a VR-centric society.
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#24Combine this with the new Pimax, and infinite workspaces start to become a practical reality. Which could help propgate the technology more which would lead seamlessly into more teleconferences, which have a feeling of personal interactions... which is important, even if we as programmers don't always appreciate it. The other day I was playing a game of onward. It was the rare instance that a team wanted to work toge…
"I work from home full time, I think the biggest downside are the missing meaningful interactions with other people. I think VR has huge potential to bridge that gap." VR also has the potential to be way more addictive than current forms of online interaction and entertainment. I'm reminded of I think it was a Larry Niven story (maybe Ringworld ) in which the protagonist has an electrical wire put in to the pleasure…
We don't need technology, we have drugs, it won't necessarily be a new problem when we can do it with technology too.
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#25I'm more impressed by the videos of the hand tracking around the keyboard than the tracker in the keyboard! Is that fidelity just using the Vive's outward facing camera? They don't show any tracking gloves in the mockups.
Yes it's using the Vive camera
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#26Seems difficult to type only by touch in dark.
I honestly don't understand how this is difficult for people. I can touch type without looking, on a keyboard which is moving randomly. It's not a parlour trick, it's just what's supposed to happen if you type much at all. If you can't touch type in the dark, there's something wrong with your skill or your equipment.
I can touch type but not everybody can. Look at non sw developers using computers: usually they look for keys and are slow. They are the huge majority of the market. I'll be like them if I were not using a keyboard all the time.
Btw, this is a VR keyboard from the Dennou Coil anime 2009. Nobody was using real reality (pun intended) laptops there, only VR ones. I guess they were running on some AWS like cloud.
https://giphy.com/gifs/typing-keyboard-dennou-coil-1337mjZhd...
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly don't understand how this is difficult for people. I can touch type without looking, on a keyboard which is moving randomly. It's not a parlour trick, it's just what's supposed to happen if you type much at all. If you can't touch type in the dark, there's something wrong with your skill or your equipment.
I can touch type but not everybody can. Look at non sw developers using computers: usually they look for keys and are slow. They are the huge majority of the market. I'll be like them if I were not using a keyboard all the time. Btw, this is a VR keyboard from the Dennou Coil anime 2009. Nobody was using real reality (pun intended) laptops there, only VR ones. I guess they were running on some AWS like cloud. https:/…
> Look at non sw developers using computers: usually they look for keys and are slow. They are the huge majority of the market.
Citation needed. (Seriously, I was looking for statistics on that recently and couldn't find any)
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#28Combine this with the new Pimax, and infinite workspaces start to become a practical reality. Which could help propgate the technology more which would lead seamlessly into more teleconferences, which have a feeling of personal interactions... which is important, even if we as programmers don't always appreciate it. The other day I was playing a game of onward. It was the rare instance that a team wanted to work toge…
"I work from home full time, I think the biggest downside are the missing meaningful interactions with other people. I think VR has huge potential to bridge that gap." VR also has the potential to be way more addictive than current forms of online interaction and entertainment. I'm reminded of I think it was a Larry Niven story (maybe Ringworld ) in which the protagonist has an electrical wire put in to the pleasure…
that sounds like the snooze button on my alarm clock
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#29Combine this with the new Pimax, and infinite workspaces start to become a practical reality. Which could help propgate the technology more which would lead seamlessly into more teleconferences, which have a feeling of personal interactions... which is important, even if we as programmers don't always appreciate it. The other day I was playing a game of onward. It was the rare instance that a team wanted to work toge…
"I work from home full time, I think the biggest downside are the missing meaningful interactions with other people. I think VR has huge potential to bridge that gap." VR also has the potential to be way more addictive than current forms of online interaction and entertainment. I'm reminded of I think it was a Larry Niven story (maybe Ringworld ) in which the protagonist has an electrical wire put in to the pleasure…
Yup, Larry Niven's "The Ringworld Engineers". The main protagonist uses a "droud" (as the implant is called in the book) to directly stimulate the brain with electrical impulses.
He only disconects the droud because he knows he will die from starvation, dehydration and atrophy if the doesn't go through the motions daily. But every moment without the droud is existential dread.
Re: Logitech announces a development kit for using keyboards in virtual reality
#30Just look at this nonsense [1]. We have brand new technology with unlimited potential for new abstractions and paradigms. So, what do we do? We make a virtual desktop workstation, the same one we had since 70s! We limit all rendering to a 2D surface, make it curved and put a nebula in the background. Is this really the cutting edge of information technologies?
Also, we need both mechanical keyboard to sense key presses and 3D tracking of finger movements? I get it, Logitech wants to keep selling keyboards, but for VR experience I would rather have tracking of facial features and eye movement.
[1] https://d201n44z4ifond.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/sit...
